MuskyMelonA Sitting Senator Just Went Full Mask-Off White Nationalist
Jesus fucking Christ. These pieces of shit are really feeling emboldened now, like there’s not going to be any opposition to stop them. We need to make fucking sure these pieces of shit are left cowering in their homes, and afraid to be out in society. Removed from the herd.
Unfortunately half the US agrees with him and the other half is a bunch of pants-pissing cowards.
quick_snailNo. Its about 30%. Too damn high, but it is not half
You know what? It doesn’t matter. It could be 5 percent and it wouldn’t make a lick of difference if the rest of your country sits there with its thumbs up it’s asses and allows it.
If it’s 30% and not 50? Great- the rest of you look even WORSE for not dealing with it. Get off your sofas and start ensuring these people don’t feel safe leaving their homes.
30% backing a fascist government as the floor is pretty fucking awful. That doesn’t leave a lot of room for the shitty normal conservatives or the centrists who are so terrified to actually have a stance that they’ll fight people with a strong opinion before they fight a fascist.
Absolutely half, maybe more even, are the kind of people who will either cause the problem or do nothing to stop it or even try to tell the good people that they’re being dramatic because they don’t want to face the fact their country is a broken mess.
BlueÆtherI’m sorry, but the article starts with “Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth, on this continent, a new nation,…" in its first paragraph.
That statement in and of it’s self screams of a white, conquering, nation building colonial power.
He may be saying the quite bit out aloud, but your nation was built on death and repression of an already existing group of peoples.
What country are you from?
I could ask the same of you if you don’t want to acknowledge America’s dark history
Every country is built upon the bones of the oppressed. Why pick and choose?
I’m not. My country is pretty fucked in this regard - but at least we acknowledge and are <semi> trying to work to right some of those wrongs
Can you guarantee generations after you will continue to do that or won't backtrack on that work?
Because the US did do what you're saying in the past.
Point is, you're judging a country's entire history from a position you're in at the current moment in time. A position which isn't guaranteed to last.
SkilurosI am just curious, do you consider the reverse to be a realistic possibility?
The US formally becoming a chauvinistic, fake-Christian, oligarch/mafia state, with no real democracy (the Russians nominally do have elections) for next 30-50 years.
The only reason I ask is that my centre-right friends from the US have mentioned things like “Well, we had the gilded age, and we made it through.”
While the above is true, there are also other key historical events to consider like the great depression, global rise of fascism and WW2.
Of course. People change, ideas change, needs change. What was can't always be.
Can you guarantee generations after you will continue to do that or won’t backtrack on that work? Because the US did do what you’re saying in the past.
No I can’t, and our current government seems to bet trying thier best to roll back some of the gains of the last 20-30 years.
Point is, you’re judging a country’s entire history from a position you’re in at the current moment in time. A position which isn’t guaranteed to last.
And the twat in the OP is being held up as a right wing white rule type. He has spoken their quiet parts out aloud, but the article in question starts with Abraham Lincoln’s “Gettysburg Address”, (that is problematic in it’s self) as the counterpoint to the current governing right. I’m calling that out as being a nation building colonial speech.
For me that remains open to interpretation. The colonies were of different countries and up until Lincoln, they mixed together with the natives (what was left of them anyway) and the black slaves. And though his work was cut short, tangential evidence suggests to Lincoln working towards a complete integration.
Many use that vision when mentioning Lincoln and it's possible that's why it was also used as an argument in the article.
Then again, deconstructing it into a form of colonial dominion is also an opinion.
Not every country is a settler-colony, lets be 100% about that. The evil that AmeriKKKa has unleashed on the native people and across the globe is almost unparalleled, although a lot of euro nations certainly have tried or gave inspiration. But the amount of blood and tears shed to create the romanesque empire that the founding butchers envisioned is an outlier and not the norm.
It was an honest question, but I suppose it doesn’t matter.
I didn’t really think that it did at that stage, but if you must know it New Zealand
A lot of the founding concepts of the US from the Declaration of Independence were inspired by earlier native treaties among indigenous nations. Even the highest ideals the US was created to strive for had roots in Native American ideologies.
The entire concept as a nation for over two centuries has been to take in immigrants from everywhere and create a melting pot culture where everyone makes new lives together.
The idea that the US is a white ethnostate is staggeringly ignorant of both history and present reality.
ToastedRavioliLeave it to Eric Schmitt to be staggeringly ignorant, thats his expertise.
When this piece of shit was the MO AG he did literally nothing for the people of the state whatsoever. I once met him in his office during a tour of the capital, and he said that the only issue anyone cared about was robocalls. Just robocalls. As if there werent a million and one things he could have actually been trying to tackle to improve the lives of Missourians. The guy is not only a racist piece of shit that should be strung up by the toes, hes also incredibly and unfathomably stupid
He’s his speech. I had never seen him before.
Sen. Eric Schmitt | What is an American? | NatCon 5
unconsequentialWhere are you bringing this rose colored glasses history of the US from? I mean, that’s a wonderful ideal but ignores a lot of very bloody, violent and horrific suffering of native Americans and black Americans history. As well as the tremendous suffering of many earlier immigrant groups like German and Irish Catholics. Our kids literally died in factories and mines following fantasies like that.
When I hear this propoganda it always makes me think of the Don Bluth film American Tale. They flee the pogroms and sing on the boat over, “there are no Cats in America and the streets are paved with cheese!” Of course, there were cats in America and oppression and poverty and orphans on every corner. As soon **as they ran out of one group to exploit they would ship in another and turn them on the new group. **
One of my early grade school memories was standing on an island in the Wisconsin River with my classmates learning about how they mass murdered children like me. They were surrendering. They opened fire and killed hundreds of innocents. I don’t think their treatise were very inspiring while the river ran red with their children’s blood. Then we all moved in and built our barns on top of their burial mounds because it was the high ground on the property. Let our dairy cows shit on their ancestors for generations. Remember kids, always sign papers with the white man government.
It’s also absolutely not a mistake that Texas is as racist and horrific as it is and that you see many white Texans running to colonize Israel now. They were sent to Texas to mass murder the Mexican population and overtake the land from the people who lived there even before it was “won” in the “war”. A lot of Irish immigrants partook in it too because it was one of the only ways to raise their social class. Which you also see with the iconic Buffalo soldiers who were black men sent to genocide the Native American population after the civil war to raise their social status as freemen.
I’m primarily bohemian-Czech and German Catholic descent and many of the people from my demographic now live to step on the newest batch of immigrants. That’s the only tried and true American tradition. You even see it with the Cubans in Florida today. They saw themselves as different from other Latino groups because they were established. Germans once beat on the Irish because they were in competition and both beat on the blacks. Labor history is full of these stories. But you also saw them intermarry a lot because they were all on the bottom of someone else’s shoe.
The US was NEVER designed to be a melting pot. It was designed to be a land grab for resources and to exploit various groups of immigrants to make a profit. I mean look out West what they did to Chinese immigrants. They would hang them from cliffs to mine, if they fell asleep they cut their ropes letting them fall to their deaths. And the horrors of the railroads are too numerous to name here.
It’s always been a few rich white protestant families exploiting the newest off the boat group. I love the fantasy of the melting pot because that’s what it should be today. There are a lot of white Americans who are jumping on the bandwagon thinking they’re included in a group they aren’t because WWII Nazism raised their social status in the US. That’s why you see a lot of the poor white immigrants’ descendants clinging to it because it affords them a class they’re locked out of as Germans, Irish, Polacks, Norwegians, Italians or just poor southern European-mutt whites etc. The only prerequisite is that you’re white presenting, a vast “improvement” for those groups that were normally divided by religion, origin, etc. So maybe that’s your melting pot?
The entire US system is designed to exploit immigrants for profit. It was never to “build a great nation together and sing kumbaya my lord into the sunset” as some great bastion of diversity (over the mass graves of native, Mexican and blacks of course). This land is drenched in blood and pain. Don’t erase that or you’re not better than the “ban critical race theory” or the “I don’t see color” folks.
You can’t rewrite the future with lies. You need to hold space for the truth if you ever hope to deconstruct it and build something better. Let’s make that melting pot fantasy a reality but in order to do that you need to first look very seriously at the real current reality. You’re not going to strike down white Christian nationalists by regurgitating their own sanitized version of history. You need to understand where they were born from and what motivates them if you ever want to defeat them.
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The entire concept as a nation for over two centuries has been to take in immigrants from everywhere and create a melting pot culture where everyone makes new lives together.
Tell that to the chinese and irish workers doing railroad construction. The native americans that were (and still are!) genocided. All the africans that were brought in as slaves to replace the enslaved native population because it is easier to control foreigners in a strange land than the people that lived there for millenia. Immigration were from the colonizers country (France and England), and other nations were only allowed (or forcibly brought) in for cheap labor.
JD Vance recently said the exact same thing.
And find it more upsetting that this publication acts as if this is the first time this is ever happened.
How could anyone possibly be surprised by this? How fucking stupid are you?
Agreed. It’s time for reckoning by the voters, instead of more vksmevthe system/ politicians/ lack of good candidates. The system did as it always did, and dumb, lazy voters and virtue signaling sitouts got trump back into office.
This. The reporting around things like this are reckless. Half the time it sounds like they’re inadvertently giving a platform to the rhetoric to spread. To normalize something that people already fought down before. But unfortunately many people are ignorant to that fact because many were raised with a revisionist version of history. And most don’t talk to people. Seriously. They don’t listen to family stories of what actually went down in their communities. For better or for worse.
At a certain point, the “neutrality” of the press is, itself, taking a side.
Fuck white nationalists, but this article seems like a sensationalist headline with little actual backing. They don’t give a full quote of a single sentence of his speech, and seem to take a lot of liberties connecting the dots. I don’t know anything about this guy, and he may well be a piece of shit, but I don’t trust this style of reporting.
This year, Schmitt, a sitting senator, outdid them both. Schmitt opened by reiterating the antisemitic tropes of his senior colleague. America is threatened by the “elites,” he declared, “who rule everywhere but are not truly from anywhere.” This is the “rootless cosmopolitan” trope at the heart of modern antisemitism. They serve “global liberalism” and “global capital” and support mass migration, he continued, a nod to the “great replacement” theory, which blames Jews for replacing white Americans with nonwhite immigrants.
The white Europeans who settled America and conquered the West “believed they were forging a nation—a homeland for themselves and their descendants,” he said. “They fought, they bled, they struggled, they died for us. They built this country for us. America, in all its glory, is their gift to us, handed down across the generations. It belongs to us. It’s our birthright, our heritage, our destiny. If America is everything and everyone, then it is nothing and no one at all. But we know that’s not true. America is not a ‘universal nation.’ ”
I dont think there is a lot to interpret here…
Give me a full quote… all I’m saying. There’s not a single sentence.
I wish you weren’t getting down voted for this. The free-mixing of partial quotes with editorial interpretation in the same sentence is egregiously misleading. Yes, this is a white nationalist dog whistle speech. Print it, then explain the rhetoric. Putting words in his mouth only invites rejection for bias, and, in this case, rejection is justified.
Haha, thanks friend. I didn’t type it for upvotes or downvotes though, I was just annoyed. I get that it’s unpopular. It’s a lot easier to just be angry. I prefer to be both angry and annoyed though. 😅
Yeah so he’s still dog whistling at it. Hate to see it but it’s not really mask off
On Nov. 19, 1863, Abraham Lincoln delivered one of the greatest speeches in American history, the Gettysburg Address. It opened “Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth, on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.”
It was conceived in genocide.
And Lincoln gave a speech a few years before that where he said that white people are the superior race to the inferior race of black people. Dude was a horrific white supremacist
Right? People keep thinking Lincoln was some kind of friend to black people but he had his general investigate if he could ship them all back to Africa after the civil war. The response was “We can’t beat their replacement rate”, and that’s how that plan died. He never viewed white people as equal to black people otherwise he would have done a lot more than fight a war against a secession…
Get your facts right before you start spreading lies. Liberia began being settled by formerly enslaved Americans around 1820. When Abe Lincoln was 11 years old. Abe was also pretty progressive compared to most White Americans in his racist beliefs. By today’s standards, he was racist. But he was for his time about as progressive as was possible for a white man to be in public without being subject to murder by slavers. And guess what, he was murdered by slavers.
I can hardly believe that the South and North can live in peace unless we get rid of the Negroes. Certainly they cannot, if we don’t get rid of the Negroes whom we have armed and disciplined and who have fought with us, I believe, to the amount of 150,000 men. I believe it would be better to export them all…
i can’t find the exact source, it was in the memoirs of the general he wrote this to. I can look later when I have access to my laptop again but rest assured it is real and Lincoln was very much in favor of Liberia.
and no, he was no john brown. Other choice lincoln quotes:
And this has exactly what to do with what I posted? Except what happened to Lincoln was the same that happened to John Brown except John Brown was lawfully murdered. When Lincoln was alive, it could and did cost white men their lives to be anti racist.
Calm down lol, it’s like I attacked you personally lmao.
The link is that you claimed that I “lied” and should “get my facts straight”, so I linked the reference that I was referring to. And no Lincoln was murdered for not being racist enough, John Brown was murdered for actually opposing racism. I don’t know what you mean by it cost “white men their lives to be anti racist” as if there was an army of them trying to save black people or whatever, but yeah the society was so cartoonishly evil and racist that the mere illusion to improve the situation of the black workers could cost someone their life.
People change. Lincoln’s views changed. We can’t know his mind fully but you present only a snapshot in time.
He was still a white supremacist. He just learned it was harmful to his career to say bad things about black people being inferior
Eric Schmitt is a piece of shitt.
Every single republican is a vile traitor and should be dealt with accordingly.
FenrirIIIIncluding most national Democrats
(des)mosthenesAnother fucking traitor
This isn’t “full mask-off white nationalist”. This is regular dog-whistle white nationalist.
Yes I believe this isn’t even his final form. His true power level is yet TBD.
Timecop, the Van Damme movie, predicted a future US would have a White Nationalist Party. But they only predicted it would get 5% of the vote.
I’ve decided to stop referring to them as Republicans. From now on I’m just referring to them as Confederates. There’s no distinction whatsoever between the two. Their goal is a 21st century CSA.
Yup. I am learning how to use a gun, so that I can serve as a member of the Union against these Confederates when the time to fight has arrived. They simply aren’t worthy of being part of civilization, because they refuse to uphold the things that make it good.
w3dd1eI wish Jason Kander had a won in MO when he ran.
I have to ask a simple question. Why do leftists have such a huge fixation over Donald Trump? The hate is never ending and constant. In my country, we could be stuck with a bad leader for ever, so long as people continue electing him or her.
The US grants a presidential term limit of 8 years and POOF! They are history. So I asked again, why do leftists go to such lengths to hate on a man that’s simply doing what past presidents had been doing.
I get your anger, but it’s blown out the window, same as Trumps rhetoric.
He’s not going to poof. Houses in America are flying this flag.
Well it’s true, especially given the amount of downvotes that my simple comment gained. I’ve met some vial people in my life and Trump doesn’t even come remotely close.
Also, fighting over politics is a dead end road. It’s like trying to destroy a brick wall with a tennis ball.
UniversalBasicJusticeMy dude I will piss through the brick wall that is Trump and his cult if I must.
Its not just his actions hurting people. The hate he has espoused and encouraged amongst the public has promoted nationalistic and dehumanizing beliefs to a boiling point, not to mention the influence and power he has provided the Heritage Foundation and their implementation of Project 2025.
Because he wants to hurt people. Thats why. They recognize his hate to people in need. And they defend them. Is it so hard to see? He’s just as loony as the most radical leftist anti-Trumper. Trump proves it with his social media posts.
Idk man. I’ve lived through a true ass clown in my country COUGH** Trudeau… COUGH*** and that idiot George bush who actually started 2 wars which resulted in over 100k deaths. Trump simply runs his mouth. Where does this false sense of anger come from.
Trump’s cuts to USAID are projected to kill 700,000 children every year (…ucla.edu/…/USAID-cuts-global-impact-14-million-d…). And that’s just one of the things he’s done.
But why bring up Trump in this thread at all? The post is about a Senator’s speech and Trump isn’t mentioned in the linked article.
