My ~/.dillo/keysrc for vi-like/less-like navigation, in case it helps anyone :D

space = screen-down b = screen-up <shift>space = screen-up j = line-down k = line-up K = top # no way to handle 'gg', but just 'g' works ;) g = top G = bottom h = left l = right / = find H = back L = forward

#Dillo #DilloBrowser #25YearsOfAwesome #DilloConfig

Been meaning to give Dillo a whirl for so long. Can I ask what you like about it and if you've ever tried qutebrowser too ? If so how does it compare ??

@justine

@amin's the #qutebrowser superfan. XD

For me, I've tried it and found it very usable for even fairly modern/intensive web sites, but the Blink (Chromium)-based backend (a sad limitation of modern Qt) keeps me from adopting it. Personal call.

For #dillo, it's never going to replace a modern web browser, but think of it as a great browser for the smol web. I can read any decent text-based page with it, even with a little bit of CSS formatting. It's far from perfect, and doesn't even pass the Acid2 test at this time. But it's a wonderful smol browser for the smol web. ;)

For every day heavy web stuff, I use #LibreWolf with the Vimium-C extension.

@rl_dane @justine

but the Blink (Chromium)-based backend (a sad limitation of modern Qt) keeps me from adopting it. Personal call.

I understand that… personally Mozilla has gone far enough off the rails that I don't think it makes a big enough difference to keep me off of Qutebrowser.

I am looking forward to the hinted possibility of Qutebrowser adding a Servo backend once that project starts making embedding more possible, though.

@amin @justine

#Mozilla has gone hilariously off the rails. By hilariously, of course, I mean incredibly tragically.

I'm still not comfortable sending a message to every site I visit that, "Yes, I am just another Chromium-based browser, feel free to make your site only work with Chrome."

...because I fought that battle 20 years ago, and we won it. I won't go back to a single company having hegemony over the web.

Riker on the Borg-trashed Enterprise, firing on every other ship because he won't go back.
Kiazi's children, their faces wet.
Shaka, when the walls fell.

@rl_dane @justine

I don't see any more value in allowing Mozilla to have a monopoly on "not being Chrome" either, though. Because that's essentially what we have.

Really, we need at least three competing completely-independent standards-compliant browser engines, ideally more. Right now we have three disgustingly-corporate browser engines.

@amin @rl_dane @justine we used to have three.... Firefox, Chrome, and Internet Explorhahahahahahahaha sorry I can't finish this sentence

@paul @amin @justine

Now it's:

  • Chrome
  • Open source Chrome
  • European Chrome
  • MSFT Chrome
  • Apple stuff
  • This bay area company is committing seppuku as slowly as possible

@rl_dane @paul @justine

  • This bay area company is committing seppuku as slowly as possible

Wait, which one? "The Browser Company"? Because that's Chrome-based.

@amin @paul @justine

I was talking about #Mozilla. Who's "The Browser Company?" Opera? I thought they were European.

@rl_dane @amin @paul @justine https://www.thebrowser.company/ - them, I assume. They built Arc, and are now building Dia. As far as I can tell, they're both Chrome with even more AI shit on top.

(That, or Vivaldi, former Opera people, who build Vivalid, which is Yet Another Chrome too)

The Browser Company | Building Dia

We’re building a better way to use the internet, starting with your browser.

@algernon @amin @paul @justine

Huh! I had honestly never heard of them before.

@rl_dane @paul @justine

No, no, the company is literally named "The Browser Company". The ones behind Arc, who cancelled that browser that had some traction to fully embrace AI as the future of web browsing.

The Browser Company | Building Dia

We’re building a better way to use the internet, starting with your browser.

@amin @paul @justine

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[[otherwise, it would be filled with naughty words and angry diagrams]]

XD

@amin @rl_dane @paul @justine Dia looks like the AI driven browser, Arc looks like a copy of Zen