Ah, I see your problem. You think the point of creating art is external validation of your creation.

Haha, no.

The point of art is you created some art. Expressed something in a way unique to you. If you did that, your art is a success, even if no one likes it.

Even if you don't.

Don't worry, it won't be that long before you make something *you* appreciate, and maybe not even as long as that before you make something someone else appreciates.

It's not the point, but it does feel nice, I will admit.

I find it kind of funny and more than kind of sad how many self identified "non creatives/non artists" simply refuse to hear this no matter how many artists/creatives tell them the same thing over and over again.

Friends, we've been at this a long time. We DO know the struggle. Very, very well.

Look, if you convince yourself that you can't do art, you are probably right. But the only thing that is stopping you is your own conviction that there's no point in trying.

@etherdiver In good mental hospitals with activities, there's usually art therapy of some kind and it's not because mentally ill people are natural artists and they're trying to get us to make a product (content). It's because art is good for you. Period. The act of making it is therapeutic, not the result and its success.
@etherdiver that tears for fears reference there 🀌✨
@etherdiver I have a tiny smidge of sympathy for non-creatives because unless you've created something, it's pretty damn hard to understand how exciting and energizing it can feel to come up with something yourself. Also, I think the parallels with the modern consumption-only internet is kind of scary but also informative.

@brunoph @etherdiver
Many (all?) "non-creatives" are creating stuff all the time. They (we) just don't think of it as "doing art".

You're adding trills or new harmony as you sing in the shower? You figured out how to plate your pasta in that cool swirly way, with a bright red tomato in the center? You draw your boss saying "poop" during a Zoom meeting? You reorganize your Excel sheets to be more balanced and visually pleasing?

You're being creative.

@jannem @brunoph Agreed. To be human is to be in a constant state of creation. It's inherent to existence.
@etherdiver It's been my experience that other folks will appreciate your art long before you start appreciating it.
@SymTrkl LMAO you reminded me πŸ˜‚ First track I ever licensed was for a TV pilot I was working on as the music supervisor and when I turned in the cue list they were like, "Wait, we were hoping you'd license the track you played for us for [scene], and it's nowhere on the list?" (I'd shown them the track as an example of the *kind* of thing that might work for that scene) and it turns out they hired me in part because they wanted the track whereas I thought it was NOWHERE CLOSE to good enough πŸ˜…
@SymTrkl And no, the pilot never made it to air, you can't find it anywhere online (I'm also briefly in it in one scene!). It was for experimental interactive TV tech, so even if the footage was out there it'd be pretty weird to watch it normally...

@etherdiver

I just got back from my local juggling club. We passed clubs in some very challenging ways. I worked on some new tricks.

Did I make art? I dunno.

@lemgandi Did it feel like art? Is there an element of performance and expression?

If so, sounds like art to me. I take a pretty expansive view.

@etherdiver

It is perhaps a subtler question than it appears. Since the early '90's, there's been an enlarging split between performing jugglers and amateurs like me. Performers tend toward tricks audiences can understand. Many of the things I and my friends work on are almost invisible unless you know what to look for.

@lemgandi @etherdiver
Obviously, the audience knows what to look for. The audience is the performers.

@JoshuaACNewman @etherdiver

I am coming to this realization. I still don't think of myself as an artist. It is something I do. A lot and all the time.

@etherdiver

An analog to this is #modding, both physical and intangible. While there are certainly ego- or profit-driven people who mod, I do it TO PLEASE MYSELF and to satisfy some specific need that I have. The point of the modding is re-engineering something I've bought to work more the way that I need it to work, whether it's a gadget or piece of furniture or a game that doesn't play the way that I would most enjoy.

I don't perceive art as being significantly different (and I once did certain artwork to please myself).

@etherdiver not even, the point of art is not that you made something, it's that you tried to
the act of impressing intention on real objects is more relevant than the result, imo
@efi πŸ˜‰ definitely, just saying the same thing in slightly different ways. Process over product.
@etherdiver I feel personally attacked and comforted at the same time 😁🀣❀️