‘Being short is a curse’: the men paying thousands to get their legs broken – and lengthened

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Fucking hell. I mean… fuck.

I wish the world would lose all of its stupid societal stigmas that make people feel less human than their equally human peers.

You are a tall person, aren’t you?

Edit/comment: downvotes for this? lol triggered tall people is too much.

I’m 6"6 but your comment is just tone deaf.
I’m 7’11 and I think he’s right on the mark
Nah, I’m not triGgeRed lol, so you are?

Being tall sucks. I’m a dude and 6’6, if I could trade in for a normal sized body I’d do it in a heartbeat.

People are still dicks. Women don’t fall from heaven onto my dick. I don’t fit in cars, forget about flying. Finding clothes sucks ass. All furniture the world is child sized.

I can find people in a crowd though, for what’s that worth…

Heey 6"6 here too, with slight back pain.

Nothing is made for us, socks, dispensers, ceilings, you name it.

Fun fact: in Sweden where I grew up, I was considered ‘too tall’, men shouldn’t be over 1m86-ish.

Can't design society around extremes...

Everyone hates avg but being 160-180cm is the sweet spot for both me and women lol

And these people just don't get the struggle because the world is made for their side lol

No one asked society to be “designed around extremes” lol, make place for everyone IMO!

Your height range is bullshit too, and not even what people “look for”, sweet spot pulled out of your behind lol.

Society designed itself around that avg

So Spanish society did and Swedish too?

What are you smoking lol 🤣

Men are only ever short inside their own heads.

What delicious delusion, wish I could be there to watch you when it collapses

the vast majority of presidents since the advent of photographs in newspaper have nearly always been the tallest

Height has a powerful psychological effect, on the possessor and the witnesses

But here you are pretending the stigma doesn’t exist

That’s exactly what I’d expect a diddy man to say.

Also, what’s supposed to happen when my delusion collapses?

Being 5'3", I've thought about this kind of thing in the past. But the risks are too great, and I'm not looking to live with more pain through my life than I already have, just for the cause of being taller.
There are plenty of women who would date a 5’3 man, and plenty of the women are shorter than 5’3

I'm going to say this simply, given my dating history. Any man who's a halfway decent person can find someone who will love them and ignore relatively minor physical issues (and sometimes major physical issues too). Any man who's complaining about not getting dates just because he's short has one of three situations:

  • He has the wrong social circle.

  • It has nothing to do with his height, and the prospects he's approaching recognize the red flags.

  • His own insecurities make it impossible for him to prioritize another person.

  • Of those, I have sympathy only for the first. Finding love is not easy for anyone, and it is possible to simply not know where to look. Otherwise, it's not about his height, it's either about his demeanor, or his own issues around his height.

    My reason for wanting to be taller is extremely pragmatic: I need to be able to reach stuff in my kitchen cabinets without standing on the counter or getting a ladder. I need to be able to shop in stores without having to stand on the shelves to get stuff up top. Simple stuff. I'd also just once like to be able to see over someone's head in a packed movie theater, so that I don't have to choose between going only to shows that I think will have low attendance (matinees) or sitting so close to the screen that it's overwhelming.

    Pure mental illness level insanity.
    How is it different to what women and trans people do to their bodies? Is that also mental illness?

    Exactly what do women do that’s the same as this?

    Transgender is a different subject.

    “Beauty is pain” is a saying from women

    -Some women bind their legs to stay petite, permanently crippling them.

    -Most long term hair removal is painful

    Bindings are certainly crazy, IMO.

    Hair removal v. bone surgery is not the same.

    Keep moving the goalposts on what is acceptable patriarchy

    It makes you a great ally

    I’m not moving any “goal post”. Dimwit.

    isn’t this just body dysmorphia?

    also, men are also vulnerable to body image issues, and we’re also given unrealistic body standards in the media.

    The is a good example of gender affirming surgery too.
    This is a terrible example of gender affirming surgery.
    How? These men believe that being tall is masculine, and they are uncomfortable emough in their bodies to literally get painful surgery for some extra height so they can feel more masculine.

    I’m going to directly compare this to top surgery or bottom surgery in trans people because i believe those are the best examples of gender affirming care but this also applies to hrt. I’m not trans and im not a pysc so take this with a grain of salt.

    These men dont feel Dysphoria over their height what they are feeling is Body Dysmorphia. Body dysmophia is obsessive-compulsive disorder over a body part being ‘wrong’ or defective. An extra inch or two of height is not associated with being male. They will still be recognized as male before and after. They feel like they are male both before and after the surgery and gender never comes into the equation. They are obessing over height because of a mental health condition causing them to hyper fixate on this ‘issue’ that might not even be real. There are men who are like 6’1 getting height surgery.

    Now if we look at top surgery for a comparison. Gender Dysphoria is described as an psychological distress where they identify with a gender other than the biological gender they were assigned at birth. FTM trans men might feel dysphoria from having breasts and top surgery directly addresses the root cause of the dysphoria. Breasts are a primary sex characteristic so this makes sense, something like botox would not be considered gender affirming care I believe.

    It gets blurred because a lot of trans people also suffer from body dysomorphia and hyper fixate on body parts but there seems to be a clear distinction between the two conditions and height lengthening surgery doesn’t fit the criteria for gender affirming care.

    These men get gender euphoria from being tall and had gender dysphoria from being short. They believed being short was not masculine. They got surgery to feel more masculine. This is an example of gender affirming care, just like breast implants and hair plugs.
    I cant see anything that links this to feelings of gender discomfort or euphoria and it doesnt make sense that this would be gender related. Its body dysmorphia and the treatment is therapy.
    Do you want me to try and explain this to you again with even smaller words?
    Being taller = man being short = women. Yeah youve already given me your idiotic take.
    Do you think men don't see being tall as being more masculine?

    Yes. Height is not a primary sex characteristic. People do not look at a 5’8 man as more feminine than a 5’10 man. If a man views himself as needing to be taller to be a man there is something else going on and its not gender dysphoira.

    You seem to consider gender affirming care to be anything that increases confidence. Buying a cool jacket would be gender affirming care to you. I hate this because it waters down the topic to pointlessness. The world health organisation definition of the word includes “when it conflicts with the gender they were assigned at birth” which I agree is nessesary.

    I think online dating makes this significantly worse for guys. If you’re meeting women IRL height is a lot less of an issue but online just that number becomes a huge barrier that you simply cannot overcome. Women who you would either have not interacted with much or would have been okay with your height if you had met in person will go out of their way to insult your height or wordlessly unmatch as soon as they find out how tall you are. It takes a lot of mental fortitude to keep your head up and realize that it’s just a false impression based on the messed up dynamics of online dating and I can see how it could just destroy a guy’s self esteem completely if he didn’t realize that or couldn’t keep the fact that it’s an illusion in mind.

    I’m 5’7". Slightly below the published average height for a man, I’m taller than something like 70% of women.

    In this thread, you’ve got a bunch of tall guys talking about hitting heads on doors, not fitting in airplane seats…I have no such issues, the world seems more or less perfectly scaled for me. If someone says “Okay, the average man is 5’10”, the average woman is 5’4", so we’ll build this to be reasonably used by both" it works out to be pretty much my size. Things like shopping carts I find perfectly ergonomic to use.

    Back when I was teaching flight school, I had a student who was a fairly tall man. I went with him to check out a Piper Cub he was thinking of buying. Plane was in great shape, duffel bag full of logbooks dating to the 1940s were in order, he could not climb into the aircraft, he physically did not fit inside. I fit perfectly, like it was made for me.

    My experience with women: In high school and college I got pretty much all the chicks I wanted. Prior to 2010, not a single woman mentioned my height to me. In movies and TV, you’d hear the phrase “tall, dark and handsome” but In 2010, I broke up with a long term girlfriend and I disappeared into work for a couple years. I was either home sleeping or at the airport.

    By 2012, asking women out in person had been repealed. You were REQUIRED to use a dating app, and those DO NOT work for men under 6 feet tall. 0.000 matches guaranteed.

    Places I’ve gotten more pussy than all dating platforms combined:

    My therapist’s office. The receptionist gave me her number.

    ERAU, a university with an 8-1 male-female ratio.

    An aircraft mechanic school I won’t identify, with a male-female ratio of 47-1.

    My uncle’s house. I’ve got 3 female cousins who tend to have friends over.

    How is it I can walk into a sausage fest like A&P school, one of 94 guys on campus, many of them taller than me, driving nicer newer cars than me, wearing trendier clothes than me, and still be the one that gets one of the girls in her end? Well, in her own words, “You’re the one that actually talked to me.”

    Actually talking to women does not work online, and has been made illegal in person. So. We’re done here apparently.

    Seems like your body would be all out of proportion.
    Dumb. If a woman won’t date guys based on their height, they’re not worth being with anyway.
    It’s the equivalent of Peter Griffin wearing a shirt that says “no fat chicks”
    Except being short isn’t a massive health issue.
    Yeah but the guys doing this are to young to understand this. All they see is online world reaffirming their fears that this is a huge deal to women. In my experience a lot of women who i thought wouldnt actually do care about it which surprised me.

    On the one hand, if surgery and/or various enhancements are an effective tool to give someone more confidence, and it’s not really directly hurting anybody else, then my opinion is go for it.

    To me, shorter men are hot, the size of your penis is pretty much irrelevant (bigger is not always better), and bald/balding/shaved heads are the bees knees. I mention the dick and the head o’ hair because those are, in my experience, two other areas where men are commonly insecure.

    Obviously I admit that as a gay man, my view on things may be different than that of a typical heterosexual woman. But overall, I really wish guys didn’t feel the need to obsess over things like their height.

    I don’t have a link right now, and probably won’t bother to go looking, but I was scrolling through posts a few days ago and saw one with a guy, who I would consider good looking, mentioned his height and weight. I clicked into the comments, and literally like the second most upvoted one in there referred to him as short. He was 5 feet 9 inches (a bit over 175 cm). Granted, it wasn’t a derogatory comment if I recall correctly, but just the fact that it referred to a very average height as short really caught my attention. Now imagine if the guy was sensitive about his height and what that might do to his confidence.

    Balding is fine, but to me, shaved head with a beard is kinda gross. I’d prefer the Homer Simpson hairdo to the weird hairless rat with a beard combination.

    Bezos may have ruined shaved heads for me.

    What about Patrick Stewart?
    That ain’t shaved

    I think you might be confusing the word “shaved” with some other word.

    “Balding is fine, but to me, shaved head with a beard is kinda gross”

    PStew doesn’t shave his head. It’s all baldness baby

    No one escapes the horse shoe unless they have alopecia (shout out to Jordan Walsh, we’ll miss ya buddy!)

    Patrick Stewart most definitely shaves his head and has since I think he was 19(?) he talks about it in his memoir.

    19 is when he was bald as if you’re talking make it so. He started losing it at 17.
    jSYK this is literally gender affirming surgery.

    So all these short kings are getting gender affirming care?

    Cuz that’s what I’m hearing here.

    You’re hearing wrong. Being tall is advantageous regardless of gender.