Lady Laura 
derptron@cmconseils "You don't need a million dollars to do nothin' man. Look at my brother in law, he's broke and don't do shit!"
Robert Paulson@cmconseils that's what most of us call being rich
djohngo@xz25 @cmconseils Fair point.
Andi Popp 🇺🇦🎗️
argonaut@cmconseils in europe, yes.
however, in america, well more than half (56%) say that wealth is very or somehow important: https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2008/04/30/who-wants-to-be-rich/
cwicseolfor (has moved!)@argonaut @cmconseils An absent social safety net is the driver. In the US, the only obtainable healthcare without wealth, your own or an employer’s, is emergency stabilization (but they seek to repeal that, too.) Homelessness is a trap, typically breaking access to even what meager benefits we do have. Access to employment hinges on cars. So that’s less a difference of values than circumstances. It’s like your 1910, or worse; imagine asking people then if money mattered what answers you’d hear.
@cwicseolfor @cmconseils not really: https://www.empower.com/the-currency/money/research-americans-daily-spending
also, america has a healthcare safety net, and it works kinda well for those who need it, and the government is trying to destroy it as we speak: it’s called medicare and medicaid, and it’s funded to the tone of almost two trillion dollars per year.
medicare: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicare_(United_States)
medicaid: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicaid
@argonaut @cmconseils I’m familiar. Are you aware how many people and services they do not cover? In many states, if not 65+ or legally disabled, you are not eligible for Medicaid unless you have dependent children. Qualification for disability is punitive; just-passed law expands the ineligible pool to include anyone nonworking. ACA insurance requires your income to be above the poverty line. Insurance often only covers 50-75% cost of nonpreventative care anyway.
Kai und der Andere 🎗️@cmconseils @cpw not quite, but close. People don't want to worry. In inhumane societies like capitalism, they need money to not worry but then they pay with their conscience instead.
Xerz 💗@cmconseils what about the people who want to feel they earned it through effort so they deserve to be treated back as demigods, aren’t there a lot out there
EdgeYeah. And the scary thing is they keep coming up with so many new things to worry about...
Seán Fenian@cmconseils But some people's "Enough to not worry any more" switch is broken. For them, nothing can ever be "enough".
We call these people billionaires.
We call these people billionaires.
Harm@cmconseils Hey! Now whatyaknow.. I'm in the most people section!
Low Tide@cmconseils Just enough passive income to buy appreciating property.
atama@cmconseils People don't even want money in the sense of some abstract wealth token. They don't want abundance. People want their needs met doing something meaningful.
RejZoR@cmconseils Yeah, I don't want to be a billionaire. Or even a millionaire. 3x or 4x the minimum wage we have now and I wouldn't be rich, far from it. Just well situated and that would be enough.
D.EJE.D@cmconseils lately, this “enough money to not worry” keeps moving towards the criteria for “rich” when we were younger.
Falling forward 🍉@cmconseils
I guess I'm not most people 🌮
I guess I'm not most people 🌮
SomeVeganCheeseIsOk@AnnyJoe @cmconseils I play "if I were a billionaire" a lot. But becoming one takes time I don't have and a level of asshole I'm not comfortable with.
Jason Bowen 🇺🇦@cmconseils
Yes! "I just want to make enough money so that I don't have to worry about money."
Yes! "I just want to make enough money so that I don't have to worry about money."
quoll (√)@cmconseils id settle for stable housing
anything else should be put toward urgent climate action.
NoNotMeNotMeNo@cmconseils Its also that money is badly distributed over the timeline. When I was a young man raising kids, I did NOT have enough money, and it caused a lot of strain and suboptimal outcomes. Now I'm old, make substantially more, and do have enough money not to worry, and then some-- and a big part of that is not having to support kids & partner (much)...
Gabriel Pettier@cmconseils these are the same picture.
Mervat
Usenick Unleashed@cmconseils If this isn't true, I don't know what is.
Wade McGillis@cmconseils i want to be rich. i want to buy ALL of great island and open it back up to the public
Renan
gkrnours@cmconseils did you know that science have shown that money make happyness only up to 70k/y ?
Samuelrod
Ben Todd1,000,000% this.
Alejandro@cmconseils Yes, this sound good; I wonder though whether you can "not worry anymore" unless you have a few millions securely invested.
bwaz@cmconseils
Can we retire this dumb meme already? When did "Jim" get to be a fount of wisdom?
Can we retire this dumb meme already? When did "Jim" get to be a fount of wisdom?