According to the latest StackOverflow dev survey, no one is using #Emacs anymore... Time to finally learning something new I guess! 😅
@bbatsov
Notepad++ passing IntelliJ!? How can people seriously code there? When I was way younger (but folks, it was the early 90s!) I was using something like that.
Than I found proper IDEs (JBuilder, NetBeans, IntelliJ IDEA) and I thought I had everything I needed.
Then I found #Emacs.

@AAMfP
Until you realise that idea, pycharm, webstorm and rustrover are the same codebase with only separate branding, and small differences around running your code.

Also, I tried vscode and it's pretty much the same as Kate, except for telemetry, plus vscode tends to lose changes, so some users actually edit files with notepad.

Anyway, pycharm+webstorm+rustrover user here

@bbatsov

> idea, pycharm, webstorm and rustrover are the same codebase with only separate branding, and small differences around running your code.

So you need to pay three times, for just a config change? 😲

@mattesilver @AAMfP @bbatsov

@kirschwipfel

well, jain
it used to be this way that you could download any of language plugins to any of them (e.g. python language in idea (java)) and have it work, except python runtime would ask for a JRE

Each of them has a free edition and you pay for more advanced features, like Django or React support, or a DB client, or in case of RustRover, you only pay for a commercial license (non-open source projects).

In my case the company pays for PyCharm and WebStorm which is really cheap, but there's also all-product "suite" and free professional licenses for open sorce projects.

Sorry, it looks like a product placement :D
I'm so used to being able to just ctrl+click a variable and jump its definition or see its usages (among other goodies), I can't migrate to neither Kate, VS Code (Kate with telemetry) or vim/emacs

@AAMfP @bbatsov

@kirschwipfel
Actually, looks like I'm distributing outdated info...

Looks like they have now one free license with all the goodies for open source + optional license for commercial usage + optional subscription for advanced AI (there's AI included in the free edition)

@AAMfP @bbatsov