@AAMfP
Until you realise that idea, pycharm, webstorm and rustrover are the same codebase with only separate branding, and small differences around running your code.
Also, I tried vscode and it's pretty much the same as Kate, except for telemetry, plus vscode tends to lose changes, so some users actually edit files with notepad.
Anyway, pycharm+webstorm+rustrover user here
> idea, pycharm, webstorm and rustrover are the same codebase with only separate branding, and small differences around running your code.
So you need to pay three times, for just a config change? 😲
well, jain
it used to be this way that you could download any of language plugins to any of them (e.g. python language in idea (java)) and have it work, except python runtime would ask for a JRE
Each of them has a free edition and you pay for more advanced features, like Django or React support, or a DB client, or in case of RustRover, you only pay for a commercial license (non-open source projects).
In my case the company pays for PyCharm and WebStorm which is really cheap, but there's also all-product "suite" and free professional licenses for open sorce projects.
Sorry, it looks like a product placement :D
I'm so used to being able to just ctrl+click a variable and jump its definition or see its usages (among other goodies), I can't migrate to neither Kate, VS Code (Kate with telemetry) or vim/emacs
@kirschwipfel
Actually, looks like I'm distributing outdated info...
Looks like they have now one free license with all the goodies for open source + optional license for commercial usage + optional subscription for advanced AI (there's AI included in the free edition)
If you do Java, how do you code Java in Emacs? Did you find a language server which works without constant hair pulling? I tried eclipse-jdtls with a lot of patience and config fiddling but found it needs frequent restarts, has hardly any useful logging and a mind of its own when it comes to where and how the project must be set up.😩
Hi, I've coded Java in Emacs. Have been doing so for 25 years, starting out with jdee, then eclim, lsp-mode and now eglot. (Also 2-3 others in between, but those didn't stick). Much easier to set up than it used to be. Most things work more or less as well as intellij, the main exception being the debugger. The intellij debugger is just too good, so Ikeep idea around just for that.
You may have a look at my screencast and conf if you want:
https://youtube.com/@skybert
https://gitlab.com/skybert/my-little-friends/-/blob/master/emacs/.emacs
https://gitlab.com/skybert/my-little-friends/-/blob/master/emacs/.emacs.d/tkj-java-lsp.el?ref_type=heads (currently using eglot, so keeping the lsp settings separate)
@skybert "Don't really appreciate Treemacs"
same
@wpisarski @skybert @AAMfP @bbatsov
😀 After 30 years I decided to experiment with vi again (neovim today). Two day in it is still hard, but helps to keep some brain plasticity.
@bbatsov They just didn't give Emacs as an option in the survey. There are some
write-ins for Emacs though.
So nothing changed really, it is still probably around 4%.
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