eri Jul 29
hacker: i am spying on you through your webcam

linux user: omg you got it working?
Show threadHowToPhilJul 30
@eri I have never had a webcam that didn't work in Linux
Show threadElio CampitelliJul 30
@howtophil @eri I'm currently sitting in an office with at least 2 laptops with ubuntu without a working webcam.
Show threadHowToPhilJul 30
@eliocamp @eri I must be the luckiest person in the world when it comes to this then? /shrug
Show threadAlpha Male Martha Stewart 🍉🌈Jul 30
@howtophil you aren't the only lucky one, I've never had problems with a webcam in linux either. TBH I haven't had any issues with device drivers and the such for over 10 years. It's all comity hardware at this point.
Show threadnowhereman (nicht der andere!)Jul 30
@fiend_unpleasant @howtophil
I switched to linux 20 years ago because there were always driver issues on my ThinkPad after each official update, while everything works fine with booting from a linux-stick.
Show threadNatasha Nox 🇺🇦🇵🇸Jul 30
@Nowhereman @fiend_unpleasant @howtophil There's just too much variety out there (and especially too many cases of non-standard implementations in production hardware). Some will never have problems while others can't even get stuff to boot.
In general it would be nice if a culture of emphasizing the value of native linux devices takes hold. It's not an issue with Linux when random device vendors do some weird shit with their hardware without providing any sufficient patches or even information.
Show threadHowToPhilJul 30
@Natanox @Nowhereman @fiend_unpleasant Sufficient right to repair laws would solve 99%+ of those problems
Show threadNatasha Nox 🇺🇦🇵🇸Jul 30
@howtophil @Nowhereman @fiend_unpleasant Depends what your definition of 'sufficient' entails. Weirdness on laptop mainboards would persist, so would hatdware manufacturers who don't care to properly document or patch their shit.
Show threadD. B. StuckJul 30

@Natanox @howtophil @Nowhereman @fiend_unpleasant

I believe at some point Linux users researched what brand and model of PC and laptop will just work due to their adherence to standards.

I'm flawlessly using 12 yr old laptops. It could be that Linux drivers have just caught up to whatever weirdness might be happening as well.

Thank goodness that many Linux distros stopped insisting that all of the drivers they'd provide you be open source. Ubuntu in the day could be a nightmare.

Show threadNatasha Nox 🇺🇦🇵🇸
@MyWoolyMastadon @howtophil @Nowhereman @fiend_unpleasant If you want to experience that nightmare again you may want to try either FreeBSD or OpenBSD. 
Jul 30 at 2:09pmWeb
Show threadD. B. StuckJul 30

@Natanox @howtophil @Nowhereman @fiend_unpleasant

No thanks!
I almost gave up on Linux in the 00s until I found Puppy Linux and then Mint.

I appreciate that at the time Ubuntu was trying to push open drivers but that's not the way to get Linux desktops everywhere.