As someone interested in both eastern and western cultures, there’s an interesting trend around the perception of β€œskill” I noticed recently(?)

In western markets, the emphasis seems to be around β€œconfidence building” and personal brand / perception crafting as primary. In asian markets, the emphasis is on education and whether you can show you actually know the information. Ironically, education is actually mocked in many primarily American circles. (See glorification of college dropouts)

And I’m not just talking about startup / tech bro bs. It shows up in art markets too. Contemporary art markets in the west primarily are interested in what is generally considered low skills-high marketing pieces. Whereas realism is and continues to be highly developed in eastern markets. Again here - the actual skills for rendering realistically is mocked in much of the west as β€œcopying reality” - which is not actually true if you have developed eyeballs πŸ˜…

Why does this matter? I think it comes down to fundamentals. When you do long term investments, you look at β€œfundamentals”, because at the end of the day, those are the real value creation mechanisms when all the fluff of market hype is corrected for.

Marketing and perception can drive a lot of capital movement (ahem sv) but once ppl wise up to the created myths, all you have left are balance sheets real math. A great example is tsla crashes and hype as well as openAI sucking (vs DeepSeek)

// end random topic that piqued my interest, also possible annoyed at random celebrity paint splashes, also annoyed at ppl confidently spewing dumb bs, also annoyed at ppl who ignore reality etc etc

Also maybe this my long winded way of saying geeze i wonder when the US capital market gonna collapse but I guess that’s why all the tech ceo and vc’s are begging the President of Corruption to use policies to save them from actually having to compete on fundamentals..

* points to more affordable and way more advanced BYD as banned from sale in the US *

β€œYay free market capitalism except when I’m losing then it’s policy rigged nationalistic monopolies aka socialism for billionaires β€œ 😜

@kangaroo5383 yeah i think the 2010s has literally raised a generation that has this line of thinking and everyone is duct taping this wave to keep going.
@grumpasaurus ooo 2010s is very specific, I was thinking much earlier. Curious why 2010 is your choice here?

@kangaroo5383 oh for sure, speculative investing and hype trains have been around for centuries.

Specifically for the 2010s in the US the low interest rates that lasted seemingly forever really drove the VC type of investment through the roof, where the notion of "it's cool you'll have a liquidity event at the next round" has absolutely nothing to do with the fundamentals of the company.

This has happened in the past for sure like the dot com boom and the 80s, both that got capped relatively quickly with their respective crashes. However we still haven't truly experienced a correction yet for the 2010s and with a whole generation of people who haven't been burned yet, doomsayers like me are just waiting for the other shoe to drop.

But people are consistently getting 10-20% returns each year in the stock market and with no recent memory of pain nobody's going to pull out.

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Privatize the profit, socialize the risk.

@AnnyJoe american capitalism in a nutshell!

Never forget - NCSA (UIUC) made Mosaic via public research funds which Andreessen stole for Netscape and now his a16z funds much of SV.

@kangaroo5383 @AnnyJoe how did that work, seeing that mosaic had 6 license holders? did he buy back the license, or gave them a stake?

@hugo @AnnyJoe not sure what you’re asking, Andressen was working at ncsa as a student, then stole the code and concepts for his company when he left

β€œRumors still circulate that Netscape's original browser contained Mosaic code, at least in its early versions. Rotunda said college authorities received e-mail telling of early Netscape error messages containing references to NCSA. β€œ

https://archive.seattletimes.com/archive/19971005/2564359/profit-without-honor

Profit Without Honor | The Seattle Times

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Side note affirmation: yeah, the BYD cars are indeed superior. I am driving one in Costa Rica.... And it is impressive, even with mine not having access to all the features(mine came over during pandemic shutdown .. So it is a Chinese Mainland one.)

@GeoWend i’ve only seen videos but like wutttt drone landing pads? Want.

Meanwhile in the US overpriced pos tsla are still running into parked cars πŸ™ˆ with inside that felt cheaper than a temu box and ppl are lapping it up 🫣. And they opened a shitty dinner for.. image? πŸ˜†

@kangaroo5383 I think you nailed every aspect of the thread. I’d rather have a co-worker/employee who actually knows the fundamentals and can apply those. They can learn the intricacies on the job.
@kangaroo5383 I agree. America pivoted to surface over substance. I think mass media forces us into the visual, which never addresses the implications or underlying meanings. Few people read their news anymore and fewer check the credentials of people that claim to be experts. Competence, expertise, authority, all things of the past, like quaint paintings.

@JoelBarr this is exactly my understanding as well.

Have you read Amusing Ourselves To Death? I think you’d appreciate it