Jesus Christ. I did a deep web search & I’m seeing this comes from a transcript from 1985. Apparently. IIRC that word only dropped out of favor with the OJ Simpson trials around 1990.

…not trying to excuse it, because goddamn that is some racist & hateful nonsense. Very concentrated. But for the internet kiddos that don’t know the past very well, and don’t research…I figured I’d supply some context for you all. Hateful by any context right there.

Not even from my time, I wasn’t even born yet.

You know who always resented the use of that word?

Black people.

You must be new to rap.

I’m not doing this anymore. This is not the nineties anymore, and there is no way even the whitest motherfucker alive is putting that argument forward in good faith.

These are the words of black motherfuckers from that aera, see my post below about PRT. If that word is still used nowadays by black motherfuckers is homework for you; I don’t care as they would get the pass of “but theeey may use it, white motherfuckers don’t”, which is also racist, but in todays time, not 40 years ago and we all should have evolved in the meantime.

“but theeey may use it, white motherfuckers don’t”

You can use it all you want. You’ll just be telling people you are a racist piece of shit. Which, let’s be honest, you seem to be. So everything works out in the end.

Honestly, I again am lost. Where have I acted as a racist? People really seem to misinterpret me. (waiting for “no, we are not misinterpreting you, you are just a racist asshole yadda yadda”).

Again: I don’t care about color, black, green, blue, white, purple. I don’t care. Treat everyone the same, done. It’s much easier anyway.

Oh we’ve reached the “purple” stage of the debate. We are now officially in the late nineties.

Let me ask you, do you have anything to add besides judging snipping etc. Do you have arguments we can talk about?

Do you? You are behaving like the racist uncle from a nineties sitcom and demand people turn back the clock three decades to pander to your bad faith drivel.

We’ve done this. Thirty years ago.

Go read tumblr posts on archive dot org if that’s the level of discourse you crave on the topic.

What I demand is the stop of all racism, the stop of N-words and other demeaning addressions. I don’t exactly understand why you state that would be the norm 30 years ago and how that time would “pander my drivel”.

Because you are, knowingly or unknowingly, spreading decades old racist talking points. Your unwillingness to confront this leads me to believe you are either doing this on purpose, or you really don’t care. Either way, you are doing the work of white supremacy and that is worthy of scorn and derision. So that’s what you get.

It’s up to you whether you take this as an opportunity to dig in or get better at not sucking. I don’t care.

Okay, thanks, that seems to be a helpful answer.

What exactly qualified as “racist talking points”?

What could specificly be done to be less sucking?

Hint, I referred to “rap” and “purple” in quotes because they are short hand references that are widely understood. I’d start your search there.

I can’t imagine the kind of sheltered upbringing that would lead one to parrot those particular two in the year of your lord 20-fucking-25, yet here we are.

I am honest to you when I say I really picked these two words at random. I never would have thought these words have been overlaid with some meaning in the meantime. To me these words are more or lessinnocent words, like “rap” for “rap culture and music” and “purple” like any other random color of your choice.

Where and when have these words been tainted for general use? Really, can’t anybody have a normal conversation anymore without triple-thought and googling before using a damned word to see if it hasn’t been burned by someone or something?

No you misunderstand.

“Black people say the n word a lot in rap, why can’t I” is the argument (such as it is). The short hand is “rap”, or “the rap argument”, as in “and then he hit me with ‘rap’,”. It’s used to talk about the argument, because it’s so well worn that you don’t need to specify it any further when discussing it in the context of racism discourse.

Same with “purple”. There are many ways to bring colorblind policies, and many ways to argue for and against (hint: they mostly a bad idea, but not obviously or straightforwardly so), but the moment someone adds obvious non skin colors (“purple” being the stereotype and the trope namer here) it’s time to roll your eyes and walk away.

Thanks for clearing this up. As it seems there is a very large cultural gap at work as I have never heard of these “reserved words”.