Larvitz  Jul 20, 2025

Some Linux users might be interested, reading about this (Subscriber link, that bypasses the Paywall, since I find this information important to spread for awareness):

https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/1029767/0a550f0972703141/

„Linux users who have Secure Boot enabled on their systems knowingly or unknowingly rely on a key from Microsoft that is set to expire in September. After that point, Microsoft will no longer use that key to sign the shim first-stage UEFI bootloader that is used by Linux distributions to boot the kernel with Secure Boot. But the replacement key, which has been available since 2023, may not be installed on many systems; worse yet, it may require the hardware vendor to issue an update for the system firmware, which may or may not happen.“

#linux #secureboot #microsoft #security #servicetweet

Linux and Secure Boot certificate expiration

Linux users who have Secure Boot enabled on their systems knowingly or unknowingly rely on a ke [...]

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Show threadHowToPhil (Phillip R)Jul 20, 2025
@Larvitz And that's why "secure boot" is bullshit and has always been part of planned obsolescence
Show threadMirrorJul 20, 2025
@howtophil @Larvitz you're supposed to install updates from time to time, you know?
Show threadReid Jul 20, 2025

@voice @Larvitz @howtophil except if you use anything other than Windows, firmware updates have a tendency to just break a bunch of shit, especially if you’re in a situation like me and had to enable debug settings and change options I’m not supposed to even see just to get my laptop working properly with Linux

like, trust me, I actually avoid installing any UEFI updates for no reason other than “everything UEFI on this laptop is built on a house of cards that an UEFI update is likely to wreck”

Show threadReid 

@voice @Larvitz @howtophil oh, also, UEFI updates are not issued indefinitely

I have a couple old laptops that are still perfectly usable with Linux today, but their OEMs stopped providing firmware updates years ago, more than a decade ago for one laptop

Jul 20, 2025 at 9:19pmWeb
Show threadLisPiJul 20, 2025
@voice @howtophil @Reiddragon @Larvitz This is part of what should lead to Free/Libre firmware and public publication of hardware documentation on abandonment by upstream.

It is inexcusable for something to become e-waste simply because some corporation has decided it doesn't feel like maintaining support anymore.
Show threadReid Jul 20, 2025

@lispi314 @Larvitz @howtophil @voice something something it’s Stop Killing Games but about hardware because surprise, this shit happens everywhere in tech!

(also shameless self promotion as I wrote about it like 2 weeks ago https://reiddragon.neocities.org/blog/articles/stop-killing-games-and-why-its-not-enough/ )

Stop Killing Games, and why it's not enough | Reiddragon's Nerd Cave

Show threadLisPiJul 20, 2025
@Reiddragon @voice @howtophil @Larvitz Killing games at least /usually/ didn't count as an ecological disaster.

Of course now with always-online consoles? Yeah, it just might qualify too.
Show threadReid Jul 20, 2025
@lispi314 @Larvitz @howtophil @voice tbh the core of the issue is the same, whether we’re talking about always-online games, smart home shit that depends on the OEM’s servers for most of its functionality (like a lot of smart cameras), or regular phones and computers becoming ewaste when official support is officially cut or when support just slowly fades away and the hardware is left to bitrot as nothing runs on it anymore after years of neglect from the OEM