Again, if you did support Trump at the beginning of the year, and don't support him now that tells me 2 things about you:

1) You aren't very smart

2) You don't listen to Black people

The fact that you don't support him now, doesn't convince me that you've gotten any smarter, or started listening.

This is important, because "Should we elect Trump," is not the last important decision that these people will have to make.

And making better choices in future, requires both being smart, and listening to Black people.

And neither of these things are likely to happen.

@mekkaokereke those who supported him then and not now, are just removing their support now that it has an impact on themselves. They didn't care about the impact on black people (and probably still don't).

@mekkaokereke I have a relative who believes in a lot of conspiracy junk, but at some point stopped liking Alex Jones, I think just because hes too mean and combative and they prefer calmer pseudo-intellectual conspiracy talk.

They get zero points for their nuanced arbitrary choices about what style of crazy to believe in.

They also liked RFK before he went pro-Trump. As you said, this is not the last important decision they will have to make, and they're still running on vibes and crazy.

@mekkaokereke @KimCrayton1 Selfishness is the bigger key here than stupidity. They're flipping because Trump's policies have begun to affect them directly. If they weren't selfish (in the unenlightened sense), they would listen to Black people.

I'm all here ready to welcome them because we need everyone we can get. But until they unlearn their selfishness, they'll jump on the bandwagon for whoever else tells them what they want to hear.

@mekkaokereke
These people don't hardly listen to *anyone* who isn't rich a religious figure, or some internet influencer. So I'm not holding my breath waiting for them to listen to even white women, much less any black folks

@mekkaokereke
Biden in 2020 was The Generic Democratic Candidate. nothing more. nothing less.

Most who voted for him thought that he would be One and Done President, primarily due to his age.

The whole thing went sideways when he decided to run again.

This put the Democrats in a bind as they still remember Ted Kennedy primarying Carter in 1980. This was viewed as severely weakening Carter prior to facing of with Reagan.

It's not that Black people had any great insight on this. Every Dem saw this as a problem.

It's just that no one was willing to challenge thinking on the Lessons of 1980 until it was to late. Regardless of group.

@lawrence_stevens @mekkaokereke off topic, but the Dems had been fighting Carter for 4 years by that point. The lesson I learned was the Democratic party is not a solution.

@Aletheia_E @mekkaokereke
The Dems may not be a Solution, but MAGA/GOP is a Problem.

To deal with this Problem the only Tool available is The Dems in this 2-Party system.

The Tool needs to be fixed. To fix the Tool, the old, broken, and ineffective parts need to be replaced with newer, stronger and more robust parts.

@Aletheia_E @mekkaokereke
If your looking for current examples, Chuck and Amy are in the former group. Jasmine and Alexandria are in the latter.

I don't have any names of replacement part at this time.

@mekkaokereke it's not as if they had much of a choice. The US system is beyond a joke and that's the real issue - not the people who have been eternally propagandised by so called politicans who are nothing short of opportunistic gangsters. The rest of the world is utterly sick of how our lives are being pulled left, right and center because a bunch of fucktards haven't a clue how to govern themselves.
@mekkaokereke look, many of these people think that horse deworming medicine is better than mRNA vaccines which actually work,