This notion that we need to ask what teachers are able to DO with their time (not just say "let's shave time off teaching") is such a crystal clear point and one that is resonating across multiple worlds, from technology teams through classrooms, it doesn't surprise me at all as someone who's been a behavioral scientist in BOTH domains. "time savings" is always the bullshit way to talk about interventions

https://thebrokencopier.substack.com/p/the-sentence-that-im-very-tired-of

The Sentence That I'm Very Tired Of Hearing as a Teacher

and my case for nuance with the term "efficiency" in education

The Broken Copier

Even if we DO decide to care about "efficiency" (many good arguments against this frame as mentioned in this post), all these simplistic "hours saved" hand-waving calculations usually still *aren't even measures of efficiency*!

Such an uphill battle talking about this in tech where people often cannot even IMAGINE the case where "good" doesn't equal "faster" or "less time"

@grimalkina When I was going to Teachers College, it was a year or two after most elementary schools had put in SmartBoards.

We had to learn to use the Smart board software and holy cow is that a lot of work.

As an elementary teacher, you're responsible for coming up with 6 hours of lessons a day x 5 days a week. It has to be entertaining, engaging, structured, follows the curriculum........ Imagine if you had to make a Powerpoint for each part of that lesson, but each object in that Powerpoint needed to be programmed for human interactivity.

I know some teachers who actually did this for almost every single class. It's an 18 hour/day job, because then you also have admin work, marking, social work, your lessons crashing so you're crying under your desk...

@mayintoronto the only time I saw Ashley cry after teaching was during the pandemic while wrestling with completely transforming and writing entirely new curricula on a moment's notice with no control over it or support and with enforced technology from the university. Tech and education mixtures can be devastating

@grimalkina @mayintoronto I was academic tech support at a university for a few years, and in that time I did not ever once see a smartboard work. Not once.

We spent so much time and money on that shit, and we never once asked if solved a real problem anyone had, or even if it worked at all.

@mhoye @grimalkina @mayintoronto I remember hearing about schools getting these (and teachers not seeing the point) back when the one situation where I wished for something like that (being able to more effectively share whiteboards IRL with remote coworkers) was considered too expensive in companies with lucrative enterprise software products.

@recursive But this spending is for the kids! So they can interact with Tech! Don't you care about making sure the kids learn tech early?!?!

*dies inside*

@mhoye @grimalkina

@mayintoronto @mhoye @grimalkina It's disappointing how we treat teachers as if they're in no way an authority on their profession