Guillaume Tronix 
TutaNever let people tell you it's impossible to deGoogle your life. ๐ช
Start by checking Tuta's discount now: https://tuta.com/goeuropean
Start by checking Tuta's discount now: https://tuta.com/goeuropean
Mercurio Recibe@Tutanota what about filen.io?=
Pasquale@Tutanota
good, but I have a couple of suggestions:
in Password Manager there is also "Proton Password"
about Android, there are other custom ROMs that support microG (they worth at last a mention to check on xda-forum, if available)
Hierarchy
Renarde@Tutanota
I would recommend you remove brave off this list, even on a technical standpoint brave products are subpar and you have to disreagard the AI and crypto bullshit in it.
From a moral perspective every cent that goes into brave will eventually be funeled into anti human right campains.
The ceo is antivax, Pro Qanon, Election denialist, homophobe, ...
And finaly from a privacy stand point brave has an horrible track record of hijacking afiliate links, wanting to insert ads, tracking, ...
@Tutanota
Recommending brave is like recommending bing with microsoft edge and getting all your info using Grok.
I would also that Brave AI is well know for paroting Brendan Eich viewpoint, the NY times ran an article on it's election and covid denialism (https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/22/business/media/ai-chatbots-right-wing-conservative.html)
So sincerelly stop giving brave any kind of visibility there is absolutly no reason to do so and while alienate people who are explicilty targetted by brave ceo.
shadowwwind
Azarilhโฅ
ebrum@Tutanota searx project has been archived and their sites dont work anymore. Searxng is the main version currently. Research their repos pls
@Tutanota saying this again that searx is unmaintained and should not be recommended. No one should be using it for safety reasons. See their github repo which is archived and says so https://github.com/searx/searx
Metehan รzyรผrek
Furbland's Very Cool Mastodonโข@MetehanOzyurek @Tutanota @CoMaps personally I enjoy Hereโs WeGo app quite a lot. Theyโre even European! http://wego.here.com
@GroupNebula563 @Tutanota
โฆand closed source. On the other side, CoMaps is fully open source and community driven.
โฆand closed source. On the other side, CoMaps is fully open source and community driven.
@MetehanOzyurek @Tutanota it is closed source but itโs also community driven, they have a map editor program even! believe me, I love a good piece of OSS, but good, quality, privacy respecting software and OSS donโt always align. if the two were a Venn diagram, they would be two partially intersecting circles, not one circle. I love Tutaโs services, but (correct me if Iโm wrong) their backend isnโt open source. /nm
@GroupNebula563 @Tutanota
Allowing the community to edit the map doesn't make it "community-driven"; it's more about governance.
I know Here and its map editor. However, they've disabled the map editor in Turkey, and some ISPs block WeGo (I don't know why). Unfortunately, the quality of the map data for both OpenStreetMap and Here is low in Turkey. So, we're stuck using Google or Yandex.
But for OSM, it's getting better in some cities. And I also contribute in my free time))
@MetehanOzyurek @Tutanota did they disable the map editor or was it a request from the Turkish government /genq
@GroupNebula563 @Tutanota
There's no news about a government request, and Here didn't provide a reason. I just saw a banner that said, "Map Editor is suspended for Turkey and Northern Cyprus," when I zoomed in on Turkey. However, Here disabled map editor after the pro-government car brand TOGG started using Here in their car media system.
There's no news about a government request, and Here didn't provide a reason. I just saw a banner that said, "Map Editor is suspended for Turkey and Northern Cyprus," when I zoomed in on Turkey. However, Here disabled map editor after the pro-government car brand TOGG started using Here in their car media system.
mxk@MetehanOzyurek @Tutanota I would argue, it's too early to say which of the two will survive and at the moment there is no relevant difference between both for users
CoMaps has been forked because of some issues with Organic Maps. So, it's better from the beginning. They solved that problems in their own fork. In fact, Organic Maps became more active after CoMaps :D
Moreover, CoMaps added some great features and changed to the better colors (for both UI and maps) while also forking new features from Organic Maps.
They're always open to community ideas, unlike Organic Maps.
For more, you can check this:
https://news.itsfoss.com/organic-maps-fork-comaps/
@MetehanOzyurek @Tutanota I follow both projects and I know what the fork was about.
That still doesn't mean that coMaps will have long-term success and the difference in the released versions are subjective at best.
And itsfoss really isn't a page I would use as a source for anything ๐
That still doesn't mean that coMaps will have long-term success and the difference in the released versions are subjective at best.
And itsfoss really isn't a page I would use as a source for anything ๐
Because CoMaps is community-owned, it's more likely to be in active development.
However, three core developers have had issues with ownership on OM. I was an active contributor and Turkish chat admin, yet they sometimes didn't even reply to me about app issues.
I mention that page because a CoMaps member reached itsfoss and helped them to prepare it. I can also send you the OSM Turkish blog post, but I doubt you'll understand it without a translation.
@Tutanota I wouldnโt mention any Brave services in there if I were you. The dev is transphobic.
@GroupNebula563 Thanks for your feedback, we'll look into this.
@Tutanota Awesome, thanks a ton! :)
@GroupNebula563 @Tutanota You mean homophobe.
@GroupNebula563 Honestly same, but i can't find it. Still a bigot and a shady individual.
Crystal ๐พ๐ฝ๐ผ๐ณ๏ธโ๐๐ณ๏ธโโง๏ธ@GroupNebula563 @Tutanota also, Brave browser seems to be shady as software, pushes its own crypto and other monetization schemes on users just a bit too hard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_(web_browser) (parts of Privacy and Revenue sections)
DuckDuckGo Mobile browser might be a good candidate to add though, I think it's a well designed privacy browser for non-techie people.
nikolar ๐@Tutanota its a shame that neo liberal nations like Sweden has made google/apple a must. Moslty because without bankapps that verifies our identity it's to hard to live here
Roo E.@Tutanota Great list! The fact that people in the comments predictably roll out a slew of their own suggestions and prefered software not featured in it just goes to show how much we are actually spoiled for choice, certainly more than we'd think before starting out on a degoogling journey.
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teetrinker@Tutanota unfortunately Invidious rarely works lately. :-(
@Tutanota I don't think anyone is using Google Chat. ๐
sodiboo 
@sodiboo I know, i was more so making fun of Google Chat.
emโกโ @Tutanota I recommend Ente Auth as an authenticator app. Aegis is good, but it's not available on PC. Ente is available on PC ( Linux included ), and it's Open Source.
@Tutanota as multiple people have mentioned here and on previous iterations: Brave doesn't deserve recommendations as its devs promote cryptocurrencies and are homophobic.
Session Chat also in cryptocurrency associated and deliberately weakened their encryption, they certainly don't deserve trust.
Session Chat also in cryptocurrency associated and deliberately weakened their encryption, they certainly don't deserve trust.
๐จ๐๐ฎ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐@Tutanota Any other alternatives to social media??
@Tutanota I ain't any expert in cryptography or blockchain but weren't there some drama about Session removing Perfect Forward Secrecy, stating that Blockchain is enough (I probably simplified that)?
Something changed or is it just okay?
I also had huge problems with reliability of Session synchronization and receiving notifications but let's leave that
Vollaficationist@Tutanota Would you consider to include Volla? Their Volla OS is probably the most private/secure OS in the world. And as an OEM they enjoy full control over all security-critical layers, including drivers and firmware. Check out volla.online
@Tutanota
Peertube instead of YouTube. The old social YouTube is dead. I do like the fact that you can make lists of your favorite subjects. Maybe Peertube doesn't have that yet. I am sticking to YouTube until there are more people because I love the people and channels there.
Peertube instead of YouTube. The old social YouTube is dead. I do like the fact that you can make lists of your favorite subjects. Maybe Peertube doesn't have that yet. I am sticking to YouTube until there are more people because I love the people and channels there.
@Tutanota
Ecosia and Librewolf sound good...
Ecosia and Librewolf sound good...