Installed Teams because I have an interview later today:

Sign into Teams.

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Sign into Office.

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Sign into Teams.

"This version of Teams won't work with your account, click here to use a different version."

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Sign into Office.....

HOW IS THIS THE FUCKING DEFAULT EVERYONE REACHES FOR?!?!?!

@nuintari
I used it in 2018 or -19 for the first time and thought: "oh, somebody has read about ICQ and Slack, and they tried to make something similar but had no idea what's important."

...and this after almost 15 years of telking people we should have some sort of instant messaging system at work, after successfully using Jabber with a few colleagues (okay, that did get awkward when using multiple devices), years after all my multi-protocol IM clients became useless because IM platforms decided to lock their users in. And now people tell me I need to move with the times, and Teams was the future.

Nope. Teams exists only because IT managers have never seen anything else and are afraid to look.

@Mr_Teatime Yup, couldn't agree more.

Last good job I had was a Slack+Zoom shop, until we hired a consultant who decided that saving $5000/year on those fees was his A Number One priority. Never mind that we were failing to make sales numbers consistently every quarter, we gotta save that $5000!

It killed productivity, not to mention morale.

@nuintari
Okay, Zoom is ... also not my favourite. I love how Mattermost simply has a Jitsi plugin and that's it, p2p video calls, done. Secure, even!

In the meantime, there's a story in German news how Gmail is delivering e-mails with modified content (weird words substituted, sometimes also confusing Israel and Russia), and they're "working on solving the issue". Yes, how do you keep computers from randomly changing stuff in data? I bet if anyone can solve that problem, it'll be the Google Engineers!

(what's happening: Their machine tries to auto-translate e-mails, by default and without telling anyone, and because HTML uses english words, it likes to mis-identify all HTML-mail as English, and then translates it back to the recipients' language ... yay!)

@Mr_Teatime Oh, Zoom sucks too, but at least it actually works.

I'd rather use Mattermost, I'd rather self host, both are hard sells in corporate land.

@nuintari @Mr_Teatime I actually WORKED at Microsoft and can admit: MS tools suck.

My self-hosted Postfix, Dovecot and Roundcube is MORE reliable than Outlook and 365. That on a $6/mo VPS.

Not to mention Teams notifications give me PTSD. I can't say the same about Slack or Mattermost.

@neel @nuintari

Thank you so much for confirming...

Teams notifications are entirely pointless. I usually see them between my e-mails (should I say "m-mails"? because they're MS Exchange messages, not e-mails, given that Exchange does not speak SMTP, POP or IMAP), at random intervals, notifying me of old messages that are either irrelevant by then or that I've reacted to already.

And the Teams GUI acts like a browser before the invention of browser tabs. I can't even create a calendar item and look at the calendar at the same time.