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rizzothesmallHow this guy drinking wine and smoking at bistros unemployed like, he rich or what?
Preußisch BlauMany non-US places (otherwise known as the rest of the world) have cheap wine, cheap food, and social benefits. Cigs though idk, you’d have to be insane to smoke in most developed countries because if the cancer doesn’t kill you, the prices will.
::: spoiler Sorry to be so snarky but it’s a lot funnier to put it that way. :::
True. Bit of a tangent but one issue when you have free Healthcare the cost of smoking to individuals is lower. Genuinely it’s a problem - sometimes people don’t value their health as much as they should because of ease of access to Healthcare. I’m 1000% in favour of free Healthcare, it’s just an interesting paradox.
Public health measures focusing on increasing the cost of smoking through tax work but we don’t have the pressure to stop smoking due to the cost of Healthcare itself which can make it harder to get people to understand the effects. Meanwhile public organisations understand the cost of smoking and invest in trying to reduce it as it puts huge pressure on Healthcare systems.
Smoking is in decline across the west but we’ve known since the 1940s and 1950s definitely that smoking is bad yet smoking rates have been persistently high in Europe until more recently - last 20 years or so.
Smoking rates in France for example - 23% still smoke but there has been a huge decline in the last 20 years. Yet smoking was banned on public transport in the 1970s. To be clear I’m not saying it’s because of free Healthcare - just that in countries with good Healthcare systems there is more going on. People have known for 80 years smoking is bad and there has been a gradual decline but big shifts have happened surprisingly recently.
You’re acting like people make rational long term decisions. They don’t. Money cost of health issues is not a factor long term.
cigarettes are like $2 for a pack in my country lol
How much $ does an unemployed person receive per month there? Is it enough to swing an addiction like that?
at that time there was social assistance from the government that “paid” the unemployed, the amount of money given was around $69/month at that time, it existed 6 years ago but now it has been stopped. yeah, the unemployed earn $0 now if they don’t do anything but somehow they can still buy cigs or even drink
AnUnusualRelicSame here. Or they would be if they made 3 cigarette packs.
I’m literally crying right now as an American smoker 😭
Careful, you might overexert yourself.
Good burn, I respect it
1984Like the previous poster said, there is a whole world out there where this sort of thing is very cheap.
In the west, everything is very expensive simply because people have the money to pay that much for it. We are working our entire lives with temporary relief now and then with overpriced alcohol. It sucks.
Im getting off the 9 to 5 myself this year and living on savings and stock market. Cant waste more of my life at work anymore but im 50 now and worked for 25 years. Im expected to continue working until im 70, but fuck that.
How much money did you save up and what monthly costs of living are you expecting? Would love to hear more about your situation!
In dollars, about 500.000. So if stocks go up 1%, thats 5000 dollars.
My monthly costs are about half of that. So im thinking it should work out fine. Its a risk of course, but its not a huge risk to take. I think its going to be fine.
Nice, thanks for sharing!
I hope you also can get out of the rat race when you feel you had enough. :) For me I just got sick of it at 50.
Thanks, I’ll do my best saving up enough money will be hard for me though…
I watched his videos a while ago and if I remember right he said that he just saved up money at his last job and was living off that. I’m also pretty sure he was living in London so definitely nothing cheap.
MacN'CheezusBy making YouTube videos, duh
DyskolosPhhht amateur numbers. I have worked maybe a year in the last 25yrs and only because it was a cool job and I had some fun times. But it left me not much time for my hobbies.
Also smokers would pay any price for their fix, no matter the income. Anything else has to be adjusted around that. I have never heard of someone quitting smoking because they can’t afford it anymore.
riotAllow me to introduce myself ;)
I quit smoking 9 years ago, because it was getting too expensive. Which definitely made it harder for me to quit, because I didn't stop because I wanted to. Back then prices for the brand I bought were "only" at 4.69 euro / 5.48 usd, but I knew it was only going to get worse from there. Now they're at 8.04 eur / 9.40 usd, and I'm so happy I quit, but even more so because of my health, which I didn't care about back then.
EDIT: Just checked, and it was actually 9 years ago, not 8.
great to hear that
AFallingAnvilCongrats on quitting, you’re a heck of a success story!
Sheesh that’s expensive. Fentanyl nowadays is cheaper than smoking, shit is dangerously cheap in some parts of the US
OK congrats to you! And yeah, can imagine that being extra hard, “just” for the money. But despite you doing it, I’d still bet my left nut on you being a rare exception. People won’t even stop to not die, what difference would money make.
But glad you did. I did like 20yrs ago (it’s cool if you don’t even remember anymore). And it was weeks of hell…
I’m just a lucky fucker that doesn’t need overly much to exist. Beside an expensive hobby (smarthome and gaming and servers) I don’t need fancy houses, cars or clothes. We don’t travel much and have no kids nor pets. The latter save a lot 😁
The same way people here do probably. Mooching off their parents/friends/spouse/government.
mooching
Interesting choice of words, when discussing people with mental health issues.
Zomg“You’ve got a problem that makes it difficult for you to seek help for it. Fucking mooch.”
Another .world lib strikes again
So how do you propose the problem gets solved? It’s unlikely someone who does not want to change will.
Social welfare checks.
slstI haven’t known any shut ins that would qualify as having mental heath issues. Most of the people I know who never leave their house just don’t want to have a job. They don’t have any problems leaving the house or dealing with people they just don’t want to work or support themselves. Of course instances where they physically can’t leave their house because of mental health issues and trauma are different, but again that’s never been my experience when dealing with people like that and I known a lot of people who would be called “shut ins”.
The mooches are down voting
Or just the people with basic deductive abilities.
So 100% of the ones you know have no problems leaving the house and functioning?
That doesnt sound like a very fair sample
I did say that’s just been my experience and I did say that people with legitimate problems are different. The cases I’ve seen are spouses or partners who don’t work but their partner has to do the work of two people or kids living with their parents well into their 40s and don’t ever try to support themselves. I’ve known some people who bounce from couch to couch until the person they’re staying with get’s sick of them never contributing and kicks them out. Sometimes they do eventually become self sufficient and sometimes they find someone who’s willing to support them and marry them never having to lift a finger. I doubt I’d ever be in the position to meet a real shut in who can’t leave their house because they legitimate problems or have been traumatized so this has just been my experience.
Bro, I have a limited amount of money, and plenty of my own problems. You can figure out your own shit.
Read up a couple or three comments, and you’ll see the word “mooching.”
That’s what I was replying to, and as I have very little too mooch, fuck off.
Trust me. The two cents of your taxes that go to help you neighbors isn’t making your debt worse.
Now the billions going to the already rich…
Not if i have to pay for uour fucking death squads to loudly kidnap my fucking neighbors. Not if you stand between me and a functioning society, stonewalling every attempt af infrastructure or efficiebt services. Not if I need to pay for your imperial bullshit wars and your fucking death squads to disapoear my neighbors in the night and your fucking cops to gas and beat my friends. Not if I have to pay for uour fuvking prisons.
If im paying for all that, you’re paying for my fucking food stamps.
Rob T FireflyThe era of remote work has presented new opportunities for many.
Its not unemployment, its a one-person strike.
Finally someone who gets me
Drunk & Rooti watched the videos and its safe to say this guy has a better life then md