@rolle

Algorithms and AI are worsening the political and cultural divides of all nations.

Republicans, and other far right voters, are stuck in an information bubble starting with Fox News and then Twitter and now Truth Social.

Algorithms & AI are deepening that divide with the help of Russian bots and Koch Network PR manipulation.

Mastodon actively supports a broader access to information.

It's like walking down the aisles of a wonderful book store or public library.

@Npars01 @rolle

mostly. conservatives get treated in ways we'd never tolerate for others here and on bluesky. or they quickly get blocked here when people could just not follow or mute them. thus few try it out.

(not referring to the obvious trolls who need to be reported)

@wjmaggos @rolle

Conservatives get blocked because they espouse views actively divorced from reality, facts, and decency.

Even their purported views like land trusts for preserving species diversity for hunting & fishing have been discarded.

They want to drill for oil on every bit of public lands including national parks.

@Npars01 @rolle

but like somebody posting dumb shit on their blog back in the day, they can post it and nobody need see it. we didn't need to try to push them off the web or stop browsers from accessing their sites. we don't need to push them off fedi.

as long as we police for unwanted mentions and we remain algo free, we should all be able to coexist. as much as people might stumble on their stuff and go right, they might stumble on ours and go left. and we have the better info/arguments.

@wjmaggos @rolle

There can be no mutual coexistence with Nazis.

They don't believe in it.

The billionaires behind the GOP are funding the erasure of billions of people.

1 billion alone will die from famine by the end of the century.

1.2 billion climate refugees.

They activately funded herd immunity narratives & antivaxxers that killed over 1.7 million Americans.

They are prepared to go to war for their fossil fuel agenda.

@Npars01 @rolle

they don't but they exist in our world and always have, so we're doing it all the time. we just don't let them do the bad things. letting them be on fedi without bothering people is just like letting them have blogs that they email around (now boost).

and most people have conservative (not Nazi) friends/family that would be shouted down here if they honestly expressed their opinions. so of course they stay on big tech and get pushed further right. we need to change that.

@wjmaggos @rolle

I'm not advocating for pre-emptive bans of conservative voices. I ban liars. I ban people who are actively working to kill others.

I do not advocate for bans on lurkers while they learn another's POV.

Conservatives exist but don't want others to do the same. They have an agenda of dominance & imposing their desires on the unwilling.

They are sabotaging the votes of others, undermining the rights of others, abusing the law to hurt others, forcing their religion on others.

@Npars01 @rolle

so all conservatives are not liars and want to kill and many other things you wrote, right? but they'd all get treated bad here, right? shouldn't that not be so?

but the ones that do want to do all the things you wrote (that we're not already going after for being illegal), I don't get how we can say they should be allowed on the net but harassed/blocked off fedi.

as @mhanson101 says, there should also be spaces with any limits people want. just not fedi or the web imho.

@wjmaggos @Npars01 @rolle creating spaces without protection for the vulnerable, persecuted, disadvantaged, etc just makes a space that is hostile to those people, it doesn't make it inclusive.

Right wingers and their apologists can get fucked trying to gaslight people into thinking that if they're hostile to dangerous people, they are the morally flawed one and the actual problem.

@mhanson101 @Npars01 @rolle

I support going hard on all unwanted mentions, and fediblocking servers that don't police accounts that do that.

again, that's different than somebody who posts a conservative view without tagging anybody. today, that person might get a ton of mean replies here. vs a progressive view where such negative replies would be cause for moderating those replying.

both sets of replies should be dealt w carefully, trying to let the conversation happen but not be mean.

@wjmaggos @Npars01 @rolle so basically you're just saying don't do mean replies? Sure that's great, but those conservatives that you're standing up for have the same ability to block and limit access so I'm not sure why you're so upset for them.

Are you also going on Twitter and telling those people to make safe spaces for other views or is it just the conservatives (who apparently defibrillator are not you) that you're sticking up for?

@mhanson101 @Npars01 @rolle

yes, don't do mean replies to anybody. but the policy here (and it's good) has never been to ask every user to block the mean people themselves every time. they get reported and stopped from bothering others. servers that host lots of assholes get fediblocked. I agree w that. just do that for harassing anybody.

as I said, on closed places like twitter with algos, the owner is doing propaganda. yeah, I'll tell Zuck not to push meta glasses too.

we have power here.

@mhanson101 @Npars01 @rolle

or maybe we should instead take your approach and scour the web for every website with stuff we don't like and harass them until that's all taken down, no matter if you're the only person outside of the site owner that has ever seen it. /snark

I'm very concerned that we're all talking to each other civilly cause I think that's ultimately how knowledge and empathy expands and the moral arc bends toward justice in the most sustainable way. the fedi can help a lot.

@mhanson101 @Npars01 @rolle

were they born evil?