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@MarkHoltom Many Germans feel that being patriotic is joining the AFD party.

@Methylcobalamin @MarkHoltom

Andy Fletcher 5d ago

There are idiots in every country. In the UK it is Reform

5d ago

@Methylcobalamin @MarkHoltom The AfD is absolutely anti-patriotic, no matter what they claim. They want to destroy the country and exploit us, and they're doing it with the help of Putin and his friends.

bjb

5d ago

@celeste_42bit @Methylcobalamin @MarkHoltom within the last year or two, hundreds of thousands of Germans took to the streets across the country every Sunday, rain or shine, for weeks, nay months, to protest the beginnings of the rise of the AfD.

Do not over-emphasize the influence of the AfD.

And to the Germans: I am very impressed, and hope you will keep it up. Other countries should do the same (especially calling Canada! Calling the States!)

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@bjb @celeste_42bit @MarkHoltom That is good to hear. With no offense meant, many people in the world get anxious hearing about a right wing party gaining prominence in Germany. It is good many Germans turned out to protest them. I don't know what your news coverage is like, but perhaps someone can tell this Jens Bottiger that the "No Kings" protest held on the same day as trump's military was the largest protest in U.S. history.

@Methylcobalamin @celeste_42bit @bjb @MarkHoltom

Elosha 5d ago

Celeste is right. True German patriotism is being thankful to live in democracy by accident, fearing wars, supporting the society and environment, improving bonds to other countries, highlighting positive sides of history, with awesome artists and inventors, who serve as role models.

Friendship, art and skill, this is how a thing like „patriotism“ feels like, for most of us.

Scrappy Capy Distro 5d ago

@bjb @celeste_42bit @Methylcobalamin @MarkHoltom keep what up? The AfD are gaining in the poles. BSW broke from Die Linke and is open to collaboration with the AfD. The major political parties are racist and anti-arab as fuck. The (white/German) antifa are often Zionists or won't say shit about Palestine. Some of us might hold true to antifascist principles, but we're not holding back the tide

bjb

@scrappy_capy_distro @celeste_42bit @Methylcobalamin @MarkHoltom
With the rise of AI bots, it is easy to think there is a wave of fascism drowning everything. Not everything you read is a real person's opinion.
And, it is important to keep resisting visibly, even if it seems pointless. It gives others hope and strength to resist.

bjb

@scrappy_capy_distro @celeste_42bit @Methylcobalamin @MarkHoltom

Re States "No Kings" protest: you are running a marathon, not a sprint. You will have to do those protests, just as big and bigger, many times over the course of the next years. I was very encouraged not only by the size of the German protests but by the persistence: every week, in all kinds of weather, for months. That is the minimum of what is required.

@bjb @scrappy_capy_distro @Methylcobalamin @MarkHoltom I wish we'd continue those. The scandal which started all of this should have been a wake-up call for everyone to protest until our government initiates the review process for banning those brown dipshits.

@celeste_42bit @bjb @Methylcobalamin @MarkHoltom what about the SPD and "wir müssen im grossen Stil abschieben"? Ban them too?

@scrappy_capy_distro @bjb @Methylcobalamin @MarkHoltom Naja, ist ne Scheiß Einstellung, aber nun mal nicht verfassungswidrig. Die müssen abgewählt werden. Davor muss man halt die Bevölkerung überzeugen und feste gegen den Mist protestieren.

@bjb @celeste_42bit @Methylcobalamin @MarkHoltom the No Kings protests are neither a necessary nor sufficient action to avert fascism. A bunch of people standing around doesn't change anything unless they're willing to take direct action and act "violently," which so far they really aren't. German mass protests haven't stopped deportations, extraditions, or genocide. Mass protest on it's own is just spectacle without substance

@bjb @celeste_42bit @Methylcobalamin @MarkHoltom I'm talking about trends in voting in which map to people's beliefs as well as policy set by ruling parties. This represents beliefs of the masses as well as structural power. I don't care what some troll somewhere says. I know that the German state is fully behind a genocide and is still actively moving right with regards to its own borders and immigrants.

@scrappy_capy_distro @bjb @Methylcobalamin @MarkHoltom I've not seen any antifa not support Palestine yet, tbh.
And I agree with our current government doing bull without end. Border controls, anti-immigration policies, etc. are absolutely anti-EU and not what our country should stand for.
And with 20% voting for the AfD and about 30% agreeing with them, even though that's 🤮, there are still 70% of people opposing their shit. I'd like those 70% of voters, the silent majority, to finally be loud so we can dry out the brown swamps together.

I'm not saying "not all Germans" because I can only say that comfortably, when every other German is actively fighting the fascists. Sadly, it's still "not our problem," which is to the detriment of all minorities who are being targeted by the Brown Plague.