Talya (she/her) 🏳️‍⚧️✡️the fact that the Internet Archive got into bigger trouble for lending books they paid for than Facebook did for reproducing books they pirated tells you everything you need to know about copyright.
Edward Hasbrouck@Yuvalne - The Internet Archive never lent books. They made and distributed an unlimited number of unrestricted copies of each book, with a public URL for a scanned image of each page of each book: https://nwu.org/what-is-the-internet-archive-doing-with-our-books/
What is the Internet Archive doing with our books? | NWU
The NWU presented a public informational webinar on “What is the Internet Archive doing with our books?” on April 27 and May 5, 2020. The webinar explains "Controlled Digital Lending", the "National Emergency Library", and "One Web Page for Every Page of Every Book": Video of webinar Slides from webinar Related articles: We Need Federal
Joan CiberSheep (ell/això)@ehasbrouck not true at all
Lending book was indeed limited by a copy at a time, thus the long waiting list on famous books.
I would say you never ever tried the feature.
You might be talking about the access ti PD books. Making a biased and wrong assuption to defend copyright holders whom have too much power already.
@cibersheep @Yuvalne - Scans of books are distributed by Internet Archive in multiple formats: as ebooks with some restrictions, but also (and more widely used) as unrestricted images of pages with a unique URL for each page. See discussion and detailed walk-through here:
https://nwu.org/what-is-the-internet-archive-doing-with-our-books/
https://nwu.org/what-is-the-internet-archive-doing-with-our-books/
What is the Internet Archive doing with our books? | NWU
The NWU presented a public informational webinar on “What is the Internet Archive doing with our books?” on April 27 and May 5, 2020. The webinar explains "Controlled Digital Lending", the "National Emergency Library", and "One Web Page for Every Page of Every Book": Video of webinar Slides from webinar Related articles: We Need Federal
@ehasbrouck I'm sorry, but repeating this is not making it true.
Keeping in with the conversation, though, instead of suing Meta for an illegal practice and piracy act, you rather try to shut down a library.
Keeping in with the conversation, though, instead of suing Meta for an illegal practice and piracy act, you rather try to shut down a library.
@cibersheep - Nor does ignoring the evidence I provided, which is easily verifiable, make the false narrative by the Internet Archive that you are repeating true. There *is* a unique, unrestricted URL on Archive.org for the image of each page of each book scanned by the Internet Archive, distinct from the ebook on OpenLibrary.org. These are the pinpoint URLs used in Wikipedia, but that are also usable by anyone, including any number of simultaneous downloaders. Check it out.
@ehasbrouck also, your «evidences» are based on wrong or false concepts
@cibersheep - There is detailed documentation and walkthroughs in the article I linked to. What is it you think is incorrect?
@ehasbrouck
- Your approach here is with a mind of paper book industry.
- The OpenLibrary doesn't serve copies of the books. It's a catalog that links to the Archive
- Links are not copies of the files
- Links to single pages are not an issue, as the file is served from the Archive. If it's borrowed you can access it, if you don't only the sample pages
- DRM technology is the same used by Amazon
- Your approach here is with a mind of paper book industry.
- The OpenLibrary doesn't serve copies of the books. It's a catalog that links to the Archive
- Links are not copies of the files
- Links to single pages are not an issue, as the file is served from the Archive. If it's borrowed you can access it, if you don't only the sample pages
- DRM technology is the same used by Amazon
@cibersheep - You are mistaken. All of the pages images to rvery book are always available on archive.org. There's no pretense of borrowing or limitation to certain pages.
@ehasbrouck that's why you couldn't find a working example in the last 5 years? :)
The links provided are not working (as intended) or from a book in the DP (as intended)
The links provided are not working (as intended) or from a book in the DP (as intended)
@cibersheep - I don;t control IA. They have taken down *some* of their pirate copies to frustrate our providing live examples, which would have to change constantly. But see snapshots in the slides here: https://nwu.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/NWU-Internet-Archive-webinar-27APR2020.pdf
@ehasbrouck I see my mistake now.
Now that you sent the same information as pdf, I see the issue was the html format.
I am wrong, you are totally and comoletely right. I see it now.
Soery I interruptes your monoligue. It will not happen again
Goodbye
Now that you sent the same information as pdf, I see the issue was the html format.
I am wrong, you are totally and comoletely right. I see it now.
Soery I interruptes your monoligue. It will not happen again
Goodbye