the fact that the Internet Archive got into bigger trouble for lending books they paid for than Facebook did for reproducing books they pirated tells you everything you need to know about copyright.

#fuckAI

@Yuvalne - The Internet Archive never lent books. They made and distributed an unlimited number of unrestricted copies of each book, with a public URL for a scanned image of each page of each book: https://nwu.org/what-is-the-internet-archive-doing-with-our-books/
What is the Internet Archive doing with our books? | NWU

The NWU presented a public informational webinar on “What is the Internet Archive doing with our books?” on April 27 and May 5, 2020. The webinar explains "Controlled Digital Lending", the "National Emergency Library", and "One Web Page for Every Page of Every Book": Video of webinar Slides from webinar Related articles: We Need Federal

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@ehasbrouck not true at all
Lending book was indeed limited by a copy at a time, thus the long waiting list on famous books.
I would say you never ever tried the feature.

You might be talking about the access ti PD books. Making a biased and wrong assuption to defend copyright holders whom have too much power already.

@Yuvalne

@cibersheep @Yuvalne - Scans of books are distributed by Internet Archive in multiple formats: as ebooks with some restrictions, but also (and more widely used) as unrestricted images of pages with a unique URL for each page. See discussion and detailed walk-through here:
https://nwu.org/what-is-the-internet-archive-doing-with-our-books/
What is the Internet Archive doing with our books? | NWU

The NWU presented a public informational webinar on “What is the Internet Archive doing with our books?” on April 27 and May 5, 2020. The webinar explains "Controlled Digital Lending", the "National Emergency Library", and "One Web Page for Every Page of Every Book": Video of webinar Slides from webinar Related articles: We Need Federal

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@ehasbrouck I'm sorry, but repeating this is not making it true.
Keeping in with the conversation, though, instead of suing Meta for an illegal practice and piracy act, you rather try to shut down a library.
@cibersheep - Nor does ignoring the evidence I provided, which is easily verifiable, make the false narrative by the Internet Archive that you are repeating true. There *is* a unique, unrestricted URL on Archive.org for the image of each page of each book scanned by the Internet Archive, distinct from the ebook on OpenLibrary.org. These are the pinpoint URLs used in Wikipedia, but that are also usable by anyone, including any number of simultaneous downloaders. Check it out.
@ehasbrouck also, your «evidences» are based on wrong or false concepts
@cibersheep - There is detailed documentation and walkthroughs in the article I linked to. What is it you think is incorrect?
@ehasbrouck apart from that, not related to your article.
- You are considering your work a product
- You are treating a public library as a store
- In the context of the conversation, you didn't express any issue against Meta.
Therefore, you agree of grinding our works to be plagiarized automatically as any kind of product, you agree with macrobusiness abuse, you don't care or you got payed to look away.
@cibersheep - I don't publish on Meta, and so far as I know, they haven't scanned or distributed unauthorized copies of my work. They are evil, but in different ways. They have never paid me anything, and i have never said anything favorable about them. You seem to be projecting some mistakdn assumptions onto me, rather than responding to what i wrote.

@ehasbrouck yes they are. That's the whole point of this conversation. That started exactly with

"the fact that the Internet Archive got into bigger trouble for lending books they paid for than Facebook did for reproducing books they pirated tells you everything you need to know about copyright." Talya

They are so pirating your works and even mine.

https://authorsguild.org/news/meta-libgen-ai-training-book-heist-what-authors-need-to-know/

Meta's Massive AI Training Book Heist: What Authors Need to Know  - The Authors Guild

 Today, The Atlantic published a search tool that allows authors to check if their works are in LibGen, an illegal pirate site AI companies copied for their AI systems. This is a similar tool to the one that journalist Alex […]

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@cibersheep - I haven;t found any of my books using this search tool for this database used as *part* of Meta's input to its AI. I have found my website in another database of Web content pirated and used to train AI, and I have complained about it: https://hasbrouck.org/blog/archives/002685.html

See also this presentation I gave to a local writers' group for some of my thoughts on generative AI:
https://hasbrouck.org/blog/archives/002752.html

The Practical Nomad: Edward Hasbrouck's blog

The Practical Nomad: Edward Hasbrouck's blog