StrypeyJun 29, 2025

Journalists seem to finally be realising that #MOLE Trainers selling "AI" are selling us a bill of goods;

https://www.rnz.co.nz/podcast/mediawatch?share=d6af8e05-b61a-4f80-ace5-e9b00a408999

But they're still buying into the "hallucination" line. The MOLE is not "hallucinating", it's just generating plausible sentences. Just like when it outputs a sentence that happens to be accurate.

Either way, it's not "answering" your questions, it spitting out plausible sentences. Because this is all it can do.

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#podcasts #RNZ #MediaWatch #AI #journalism

Mediawatch podcast

A critical look at the New Zealand media.

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Show threadStrypeyJun 29, 2025

To MediaWatch's credit, they have a great interview with NZ Skeptics spokesperson Mark Honeychurch, who says pretty much what I would have said about the "AI" spruiked by #MOLE Trainers.

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#NZSkeptics #MarkHoneychurch

Show threadStrypeyJun 29, 2025

Wow, this pioneering #MOLE Trainer is high on his own supply;

"Your sneaker is not a psychological entity. But machine learning systems, neural networks, those are thing that actually have ways of thinking, of feeling, of recognising patterns, of predicting, of creating opinions of their own, and ... adapting their behaviour, and then using what they've learned in creative ways... and then they're influential."

#DeKai, 2025

https://www.teamhuman.fm/episodes/325-de-kai

No. Sorry. They're not.

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#AI

De Kai: Humans Get ONE Shot to Parent AI | Team Human

Ep. 325 De Kai, the man who built the world’s first global translators and AI systems, says we better learn to parent our AI offspring before it’s too late. The author of Raising AI argues how we behave in front of AI’s matters more than whatever we tell them.

Team Human
Show threadStrypeyJun 29, 2025

"So we're not just automating muscle, as we were in the 20th century, we're automating a mind. Even though it's not your average neurotypical human mind, it is still ... an artificial infant brain, or a toddler brain, or a tween brain, that is picking up - with its own neuro-atypical psychology - what we are showing and our own psychologies."

#DeKai, 2025

https://www.teamhuman.fm/episodes/325-de-kai

This clumsy attempt to compare a Trained MOLE to a neurodivergent person is both incorrect *and* insulting.

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De Kai: Humans Get ONE Shot to Parent AI | Team Human

Ep. 325 De Kai, the man who built the world’s first global translators and AI systems, says we better learn to parent our AI offspring before it’s too late. The author of Raising AI argues how we behave in front of AI’s matters more than whatever we tell them.

Team Human
Show threadsu_liamJun 29, 2025
@strypey And… even if we accept the delusion these are minds(neurotypical or not, adult or baby or anything in between), then we’re talking about slavery. We’re not, because the first assumption there is bullshit, but I do think it demonstrates a real and continuing desire in Western society to bring back slavery in some form. Lost Cause, indeed.
Show threadAndy Linton 🇮🇪  ✅
@su_liam @strypey If you ever accept the idea that these are "minds" then you have to accept that you can't turn them off because that would be "murder".
Jun 30, 2025 at 12:28amWeb
Show threadStrypeyJun 30, 2025

@artnacrea
> [if] these are "minds" then you have to accept that you can't turn them off because that would be "murder"

Not necessarily. As Jaron Lanier argues in his infamous essay on philosophical zombies and simulation of consciousness, a mind represented as a computer program is still a mind, whether or not that program is running ...

http://davidchess.com/words/poc/lanier_zombie.html

@su_liam

You can't argue with a Zombie -- Jaron Lanier