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Nyx MirI am begging writers & writing-related-workers of all kinds—but especially people working in journalism and blogs—to stop using “AI art” to accompany your writing.
Please have solidarity with your fellow creative workers 💜
Ewen Bell 📸#AiArt is a great way to signal to your readers that you don't care about them.
Asakiyume@asakiyume tbh I’m not familiar enough to know the difference tbh but YES none of these dustructive bullshit machines please !!
@nyxmir I was understanding what you originally wrote as meaning illustrating something you write with AI art, but on here I see people answering writing prompts that are AI pictures--say, an ancient sage standing at a harbor, which then people write a microfiction or a poem about. I don't know who generates the prompts, but I just wish they'd use consciously, human-created image as the prompt.
@asakiyume Oh thank you for clarifying, this makes sense and is a great addition! YES
Em 
@nyxmir @vmbrasseur I will never ever ever ever choose an AI-generated image to accompany my writing.
- Signed: a writer who was once a visual artist and remembers 🙅♀️
Sue is Writing Solarpunk 🌞🌱@nyxmir I instantly assume the rest of their work is similarly low-effort plagiarism
Harry Wood@susankayequinn @nyxmir yes. Writers need to realise, unfortunately you're up against lazy AI writing now. If you do the hard work of writing words as a human, surely you have to hope that there are people like me who would *prefer* human written words, and then (unfortunately) you have to also hope people like me will not wrongly suspect your words were written by AI, and decide to skip it (Do people do that? I know I do)
With that in mind... don't slap an AI generated image on it!
@harry_wood AI writing is extremely easy to spot (at least the lazy version, the one where no one's bothered to put a human gloss on it)
I *hate most of all* that AI has driven this wedge of doubt into *everything* — the blurring of human and artificial is extremely intentional and is of zero benefit to the humans (except for the wealthy who are extracting from everyone else)
@nyxmir
aELARAJI (Skinshafi)@nyxmir I'm a simple man:
- I see AI generated imagery
- I immediately assume that I'm not the target audience.
Itchi5 illustrationsLet's refer to it as 'computer images'. MAybe that explains writers better the difference between art and computer images
@itchi5 Yeah, this is a challenge I think, and I like the instinct of finding a better and more accurate way to describe it! I feel like scare quotes are a poor option, but it was what I could fathom.
I also don’t want to dismiss the tons of creativity and beauty that comes from human-computer art or even creative programming like video games or Processing.
It’s challenging for me to find the right words for it
sortius 
Lira
TrimTab 🇺🇦@nyxmir
How about solidarity with humanity? This impact of using visual lies in creative work goes well beyond ones profession.
How about solidarity with humanity? This impact of using visual lies in creative work goes well beyond ones profession.
Fat_Farang@nyxmir How does one know if it is an AI rendering? Some are obvious, some are not. Is there a way to block AI creation?
@Fat_Farang I wish there was a good way for blocking. Muting the names of the text-to-image things like Midjourney and DALLE helps, but definitely catch em all.
(Next reply will talk about IDing!)
@Fat_Farang Here are things I use to “check”:
1. Light & shadow, areas of the image will have incongruous angles of light & shadows.
Maybe the face will be mostly lit from 3/4 left, but the ear will be lit from the right.
Shadows are often in places that don’t make sense with the angle of the light. An example I see often is the subject has glowy warm backlight, but the shadow is in the wrong place and often abstractly shaped & disproportionate to the subject.
2. Detail Symmetry: like light & shadow, these aren’t made by a person who has a sense of object permanence.
An example I see all the time is a subject with an architectural background visible to either side, and the two sides have different shaped windows, different wallpaper, different wood patterns, etc.
With all of these, it’s not about accuracy —a lot of art is stylized and inaccurate!—but more about shaving an human intention, logic, or reason to it.
@Fat_Farang the third one is a bit harder to explain, but pretty frequent IME
3. Textures
There is a lot of over-texturing, I think perhaps because of the way the images are generated and then refined, things get way more detail.
I see it most often in fabric, but it’s true for almost any texture. In fabric it is usually a LOT of layers of creases, often with bonus light & shadow.
It’s also usually true for things like hair, rocks, trees, anything that has a texture is just turned up to 14.
2xfo@nyxmir @Fat_Farang
I noticed a texture in an image yesterday that bled out of a boat's inside and onto its outside. A hunk of caught fish flesh was integral to the boat hull, apparently
I noticed a texture in an image yesterday that bled out of a boat's inside and onto its outside. A hunk of caught fish flesh was integral to the boat hull, apparently
Aaron 
@nyxmir @stevegrunwell I’ve already replaced 2 of the 3 articles I wrote that had AI art, with photos from unsplash. While I did clearly labeled them as AI art, a year later I’ve found myself not comfortable with them being on my website.
@Aaron @stevegrunwell I understand! I briefly dabbled to understand how they worked (and because my employer was using them and tasking me with it) but as I learned more about them the more I was like fuuuuck no.
@nyxmir @stevegrunwell Same. For me it was the ability to have an image that perfectly fit the article. But in doing that, I now feel like it takes away from what I wrote. The image doesn’t have to be perfect.