ZenHeathenJun 25
@dragonsidedd Not an option for an awful lot of phones; easiest to implement on Google's own phones; also a nightmare for people not tech-savvy. @cazabon
Show threadNickJun 26
@ZenHeathen I'm curious which part is a nightmare. When I started using it, I was afraid it would be a big ordeal (as someone who just wants to use their phone, not tweak it), but I found it surprisingly straightforward. And it seems like if you go the less paranoid route and use sandboxed Google Play and still install from the Play Store, the user experience is mostly like using vanilla Android. But I am somewhat tech-savvy, and I was expecting it to be worse, so it's possible that I've just forgotten some of the bumps in the road.
@dragonsidedd @cazabon
Show threadliebach not laibachJun 26

@internic @ZenHeathen @dragonsidedd @cazabon My experience as a Danish citizen, is that a bunch of apps for interacting with government are at best challenging to make work, some (MitID) are impossible. For stupid reasons that I can do nothing about.

For now I use alternative but slightly more cumbersome workarounds, but it is definitely eroding the otherwise very positive experience I'm having with GrapheneOS.

I might cave in and buy an iPhone, eventually.

Show threadRuth MottramJun 26
@m @internic @ZenHeathen @dragonsidedd @cazabon mitID only working with chrome is a freaking scandal.
Show threadliebach not laibach

@Ruth_Mottram @internic @ZenHeathen @dragonsidedd @cazabon The problem with MitID on GrapheneOS is the Google Play integrity check the app require, which will only work on Google authorized Androids logged in to Google, as far is I know.

Pretty nice racket Google have going there.

Jun 26 at 9:43amWeb
Show threadBernd HerdJun 26

@m @Ruth_Mottram @internic @ZenHeathen @dragonsidedd @cazabon When "Security" forces you to use an insecure operating system.

Owellian Newspeak...

Show threadNickJun 26
@m Yeah, based on your first post I figured it was a Play Integrity problem. I knew that this could be a problem theoretically, I just hadn't personally encountered it, aside from one case; my authenticator (Authy) stopped working one day due to them abruptly turning on Play Integrity checks, which was problematic. But in that case I could just switch to an alternative. With a government app, that's a much bigger problem. @Ruth_Mottram @ZenHeathen @dragonsidedd @cazabon