Some indie devs have really bad takes on the Stop Killing Games thing, sheesh
"How am I going to comply if I make an MMO as a solo indie??"
Well 1. I have bad news for your odds of making an MMO lmao and 2. why are you so concerned that dropping the non 3rd party proprietary parts of your source code into a repository somewhere with a no-warranty license would bankrupt you? 🙄
@eniko I really can't think of any indie that took the form of a "live service" game, really. Not in the traditional sense anyway. I seen some that got updates over the years or like, a dev added something yeaaars later but thats it
(No man's sky doesn't count)
@eniko reminds me of City of Heroes.
Game closed down, so the community figured out the server software and began running open servers.
And the company went after them. For daring to run free instances of a codebase that the owner had given up on.
A deal was originally reached, but the company did not make it easy.
The very small team releases like 2 updates a year, but the game still has a decently sized community; much of the content is user generated.
I think I know who this is referring to, and my understanding is that he was a developer on a live-service game at one point. he's still full of shit, though.
aside: he did a game on Steam that used the achievements system to save, which is just bonkers.
@VulpineAmethyst @eniko Are we obfuscating his name for any specific reason? And yeah, it's a ridiculous anti-piracy measure. So just... No multiple save slots, eh? What happens when you want to replay the game, AFAIK there's no way to reset your steam trophies. Also his game hasn't left early access for like five years.
There are things I respect about the dude but his clownery has reached circus overwhelming levels. Let's not forget the parody streamer game lawsuit.
not that I expect him to be one of them, but there are people who name-search themselves to pick fights. hell, someone even paid $10 to go on SomethingAwful to pick a fight.
anyway, nah. I don't think he deserves the name recognition, is all. die in obscurity, etc.
no clue, tbh. he does seem like the type to pick fights, tho.
@eniko Random story but I brought this 'indie game dev quirk' with some people in the film industry and they referred to it as a leap of fools.
Very similar to the leap of faith, but its more plunging a project to its death out of stubbornness than it is making a risky but calculated decision.
It seems it happens in the indie film industry as well, where someone comes in with a lofty plan that anyone experienced will just look at them like this 😬
@eniko It does, and not even the fun crimes either.
@eniko Like, there should be a named theorem for this: Any game that has all of:
1. In-game trade/commerce.
2. Any way to buy in-game currency with real-world currency.
3. People who want to play.
is inherently a money laundering platform.
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