@alfiekohn if you think that someone is being kidnapped shouldn't you try to prevent the kidnapping in the first place?
If enough people resist, they can't arrest everyone..

@alfiekohn
Get the detainee's name, birth date, and country of origin, record as many details as possible (license plates, location, time, number of "ICE agents" & any identifying info...). Call an immigration defense hotline ASAP and tell them everything. Exchange contact info with any other witnesses.

Assume the police will not help and/or ICE will be gone by the time they arrive and/or they will show up and essentially run security for the raid. So far there are literally no instances of police intervening to stop an "ICE" abduction that I'm aware of (please correct me if wrong).

In Los Angeles:
Union del Barrio Rapid Response:
213-444-6562
ImmDef Immigrant Defenders Law Center :
213-833-8283
CHIRLA:
888-624-4752

[Edit: Just added UdB hotline because this keeps getting boosted and I neglected to include it before].

@inquiline

@alfiekohn

I support recording it, and getting identifying information (license plate, number of people, descriptions). But I don't think I'd call 911.

In Oregon you can contact one of these groups:

1) OR DOJ, Sanctuary Promise Violations Hotline. Details:

https://www.doj.state.or.us/oregon-department-of-justice/civil-rights/sanctuary-promise/reporting-sanctuary-promise-violations-to-the-hotline/

2) Portland Immigrant Rights Coalition (PIRC) at 1-888-622-1510

3) United We Dream, 1-844-363-1423, or text 877877

Community toolkit:

https://www.doj.state.or.us/oregon-department-of-justice/civil-rights/sanctuary-promise/community-toolkit/

#USPol #Oregon #Immigration #ICE #Sanctuary

@alfiekohn
"it may not stop the detention"

So then pls don't spread this as a general advice. It may be useful in some situation, it may be harmful in another.

If a kidnapping is witnessed, I believe it's the duty to act against it based on the abilities each has. And an advice of what to do in such case needs to take this into consideration.

There are so many more possibilities that can be taken, and there are also simply many situations calling the police is just harmful.

You can reach the door of a car with a detained person? Go there an open it if you can.

You see kidnappers approaching a person, and you happen to drive by with a car? Use your vehicle to disrupt the situation, by force if necessary.

You see a kidnapping and others witnesses are around? Get them engaged and approach the kidnappers if possible. Try to figure out if the detained wish's to escape. If so help them do it. Be creative.

@alfiekohn DO NOT CALL MORE COPS

call more neighbors

@alfiekohn
> They must take a statement

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@alfiekohn
Who wrote this? I'm curious what they know about it

@RnDanger @alfiekohn

This looks like the same style as that one that was going around promoting a "No Kings 2.0" protest which no group was actually organizing. It was also unattributed, like this one. Someone is out there making intentionally daft political memes, I think. I'm not going to assume benign intent.

@alfiekohn I wonder if it would apply in france where we get policers to charge/hit people without their identifier (RIO). "There are people dressed as policeman hitting people, I have no way to know, help"
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