Scott Wilson
Ian Campbell"firefox's privacy-first AI has features you can trust"
pal the trust horse left the barn ages ago there
Some folks seem not to understand:
1. Using a local AI agent does not mean data isn't being mined and returned.
2. Differential privacy tends to augment other privacy-by-design, it cannot replace it.
The first 2 items apply to every company, not just Mozilla. But:
3. Mozilla has already opted for and announced an ad-first strategy. They chose the path.
boB Rudis 🇺🇦 🇬🇱 🇨🇦@neurovagrant I won't taint my system with anything from Mozilla, so won't be testing this, but 100% agree that they are very likely collecting at least summary telemetry (if they do more than that they are effectively lying in their posts/EULA). This is measurable tho. So hopefully some privacy advocates will do that.
cR0w 
@hrbrmstr @neurovagrant After chatting with the Thunderbird folks on here, I'm not ditching that yet. They convinced me that their project really is separate from the Firefox project, despite the amount of shared code and features and, you know, Mozilla. Also I'm old and can only learn so many new tools at a time. 😆
@cR0w @neurovagrant listen _young_ lad, I will show you *old* 🙃
-- sent from my Jitterbug Flip2
CaptainMalu
Tris@neurovagrant AFAIK, Firefox AI is currently Perplexity, chatGPT etc. which its CEO literally said "track every move of users"
If they were true to somewhat to the word privacy-first, least they would do would have been allowing offline LLM such as ollama like Brave does...
MHLoppy@tris For the topic in question, second paragraph, in bold:
> Firefox protects your privacy by running AI models directly on your device
https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/firefox-ai/ai-browser-features/
Eeeee
Corb_The_Lesser@MHLoppy @tris @neurovagrant None of the features touted in the Mozilla piece interest me, other than translation, which has been in Firefox for some time.
Tech people have lost all awareness of what their customers and users want from them.
@MHLoppy @neurovagrant That's for translation and link preview not for annonying AI chatbot thing that is projected in the UI
@tris There's other "AI" stuff too (as you've brought up), but the title of that blog post is what the original toot is quoting
RejZoR@tris @neurovagrant Firefox Translate uses entirely local model for translation.
Dr. Christopher Kunz@neurovagrant It has features I can trust, great. Doesn't that imply that it also has features I cannot trust? Kinda sending mixed signals there...
Tim Chase
Williams Felipe (Will)@neurovagrant Mozilla was developing Orbit, which would be responsible for summarizing pages, and some functions and without delivering data.
She stopped development and decided to leave that set of AI on the taskbar.
I didn't like it, it would be great to have Mozilla own AI and not third parties and basically being a WebView, a split screen for that.
She stopped development and decided to leave that set of AI on the taskbar.
I didn't like it, it would be great to have Mozilla own AI and not third parties and basically being a WebView, a split screen for that.
שוקו - Shoko"Ai"? "Trust"?
These words don't go together well.
eickot@neurovagrant "The troyan horse can be trusted bro!"
Scotty Trees@neurovagrant still rather use firefox over chrome 🤷♂️
Marc 🌸🌿🌳@scottytrees @neurovagrant I use Waterfox instead, so I have Firefox but without Mozilla's bullshit.
crazyeddie@neurovagrant ...but not before murdering Mr. Hands.
ElysianEve 🇪🇺@neurovagrant when someone say you can trust them ... run away fast.
Barry Cook@neurovagrant - Firefox’s assertions have got to be right up there with ‘Apple Intelligence’ as an oxymoron.
CyberFrog@neurovagrant everything about this statement from firefox makes me wanna vomit... directly on the mozilla executives, if possible