Adam ♿
I hate #HomeAssistant. I love #HomeAssistant
Jun 23 at 9:00pmWeb
Show threadAurynn ShawJun 23
@voltagex the duality of man
Show threadThe Chris DantesJun 23
@voltagex
I feel like this is the most accurate description of Home Assistant ever uttered.
Show threadAdam ♿Jun 23
@thechrisdantes it frustrates me, it could be so much better and so much more accessible.
Show threadfraggLe!Jun 23
@voltagex One of those cases: "this is shit, surely there's something better" only there really isn't
Show threadWesley MooreJul 11
@fwaggle @voltagex yes! I dream of home automation software that is a stable and reliable core that supported 1 protocol (probably the ESPHome Protobuf one). It would would have maybe 1 or 2 releases a year, and would aim to have strong backwards compat guarantees. It would not be implemented in Python.
Show threadHaileyJul 11
@wezm @fwaggle @voltagex home assistant is the 2000s windows of home automation - it is truly terrible but it has drivers for everything
Show threadHaileyJul 11
@wezm @fwaggle @voltagex I often think it would be viable to run HA as a dumb driver host, and do all the automations in a nicer system which sits atop and uses the HA websocket to control stuff. But the activation energy of doing that is simply too high compared to keeping on doing stuff in my HA instance
Show threadWesley MooreJul 11
@hailey @fwaggle @voltagex how do you picture a nicer automation system?
Show threadHaileyJul 11
@wezm @fwaggle @voltagex all my HA stuff is basically functional reactive programming with templates + an automation at the end of the chain which applies some desired state template across to the actual entity. So a nicer system in my view would be something that just lets me do all that in a fit-for-purpose programming language (not jinja-in-yaml) that I can just edit as source code and commit to a normal git repo, rather than doing clickops for it all
Show threadAdam ♿Jul 11

@wezm @hailey @fwaggle

Independent components and progressive enhancement is the best way I can put it.

Like right now my HA system is complaining I've fucked up the DNS configuration somehow and this is stopping something??? working.

Also, LTS releases for HA and smaller, less frequent releases.

Monitoring built in to the system - it's running my house, it needs reliability, alerting and failover built in. It needs to act like building management appliance instead of a FOSS toy.

Show threadWesley MooreJul 11
@voltagex @hailey @fwaggle "it's running my house, it needs reliability, alerting and failover built in. It needs to act like building management appliance instead of a FOSS toy." 1000% it needs to be more like hardware/firmware and less like a web browser (constant releases, kitchen sink of code).
Show threadfraggLe!Jul 11

@hailey @wezm @voltagex Yeah HA is *just* above my threshold for "this is terrible, fuck this". It mostly works, it's only about every couple of months that I end up in a "oh what now" scenario.

It's easier to just have angry tears every few months than to think about actually replacing/fixing it.

Show threadchendoJul 12
@hailey @wezm @fwaggle @voltagex I've considered this, and it would be very doable. HA has a decent event bus you can listen to, then you just call the HA services via the API
Show threadMyles EftosJul 12
@chendo @hailey @wezm @fwaggle @voltagex appdaemon does this. You just write python classes. But, debugging is painful. (HA isn’t great but it’s definately better)
Show threadMyles EftosJul 12
@chendo @hailey @wezm @fwaggle @voltagex getting the right combination of state names and attributes is also a pain, though I wonder if a code server that was state/attribute aware would make it better
Show threadKit BashirJul 11
@voltagex i regret i have only one fave to give this toot.