I’ve noticed that there is often an alignment between extreme minimalism in software and edgelordy falling into the libertarian trap that goes full Nazi, maybe accidentally.
Xlibre, sure (blatantly), but I remember for a while the 9front home page had a photo of Auschwitz “as a joke.” The docs at cat-v.org (which is associated with 9front/suckless) has a “libertarian” manifesto filled with straw men
It’s frustrating because I like minimalism in software and I hate Nazis
@rk the kind of minimalism which goes "who needs configuration files? Just recompile the thing, everyone knows how to do that" does not set a good framework for undertanding how diverse computer users can be. The next steps are "localization files and cjk fonts are a waste of disk space" followed by "accessibility is bloat"
you can, however, design things that are minimalist, but modular and extensible to allow more use cases. It's not easy and it takes time.
@rk I feel this. I don't know what it is about digital minimalism, and especially tiling WMs that attract those types.
Like, it's gotten to the point to where if I see someone using hyprland then I have to assume they've got some serial bad opinions.
I contributed to dwm many years ago (the swallow patch), but my non-software opinions have pretty much been constant. After I wrote the dwm patch and started digging around more on their site I was like “oh…oh no” and haven’t been back since.
“Just in case you thought about using Suckless: They’re doing literal torch hikes through southern Germany at their conferences, fighting online against "cultural marxism", and their mail server has the hostname "Wolfsschanze" (see: https://t.co/2cACHCGcqA) Judge for yourself:”
@rk I'm a bit shocked that X11 is in the minimalism camp now ;)
But yeah, I see some connecting tissue in the ways some groups do hero-worship. And minimalism does that a lot, given that someone needs to define what subset to retain from the big feature goop. (Which differentiates the Bell Labs fandom a bit from e.g. the UXN people)
Oof. The maintainer has a big rant against DEI in the project read me, has posted “Hitler was framed” and “just asking questions about the Holocaust” stuff to various mailing lists, was excoriated by Linus after posting a bunch of antivax bullshit to LKML…and also the code isn’t very good.
Heh. Most of my software has a BUGS section in the documentation, and one of those bugs is “The only human language in which output is generated and in which documentation is available is English, regardless of the user’s preferred language.”
Because yes, it’s a bug. I’m just not qualified to fix it most of the time
rk: it’s hyphen-minus actually
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