@greenpeace Bad logic. Corporations produce oil and gas for consumers, not for themselves. If people refuse to buy these goods, oil and gas will not be produced. It is people who wreck the climate.

@praustrian @greenpeace It is not for consumers companies produce, but for profit for their shareholders. So if they do not have to take environmental costs into account they offer us only unsustainable products and we have no choice but to use them or go without. What's more we pay through taxes for the environmental costs the companies incurred.

@AAae
Production exists for consumption. Profit is just a tool to ensure that production goes in the right direction. And you don't understand the problem: the impact of people on nature will always be greater than what they can spend on protecting the environment.
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@praustrian @greenpeace I'm not sure I agree, a lot of clothes end up in landfills never been worn. It's not because people needed those, but the business model that offers cheap clothes in bulk stimulates overconsumption even if the side effect is waste. You can argue that people buy those clothes, but that demand was created by those companies and it was possible because they didn't have to bear the cost of environmental effects.

@AAae For humanity, a pure free market is the best economic system. For nature, humanity, whether it has a free market or not, is a mortal danger.