Still fucks with my brain that this is apparently a way some folks invite people to stuff.

@asterism wait a minute

those are invitations?

@coconut_noodle Yeah apparently a lot of folks will do this. Like if they just out of the blue say smth like that it can be invitation. But knowing this is true I still miss it all the time.
@coconut_noodle @asterism I always thought people were just trying to rub it in that I'm not invited 😭
@asterism RIGHT?? Why just mention you're gonna do stuff if you wanna tag me along, in my eyes you're just telling me why you're busy omg
@asterism The result of one single accidental self-invite 20+ years ago possibly
@asterism these are mostly problematic because one can't know if they're open to others joining, or if there are formalities to that, or no one additionally can join at all.
@asterism that is fucked up

i can't imagine someone who'd take those as implied invitations and invite themselves along, who the group would actually consider welcome
@asterism @alicemcalicepants
Because rejection hurst. If they invite you and you turn them down, they feel hurt. But if they open a space for you to invite yourself, they don't feel (so) hurt if you pass.
@a_cubed @asterism sounds like a double empathy problem then! Open invitation to avoid feeling rejection vs feeling rejected because you weren't specifically invited.
@alicemcalicepants @asterism
It's a protocol incompatibility problem.
@alicemcalicepants @asterism
PS, yes the protocol incompatibility is driven by an empathy gap.
@asterism I revert to inviting people to things this way after they turn down direct invitations for a while, because it feels like it requires less of an affirmative "no" of them, and I didn't want them to have to feel bad for declining.
@asterism When I see that kind of remark, I usually interpret it as them explaining why they're going to be busy

@asterism Had almost exactly the same conversation at the end of high school.

Classmate: Why aren't you ever coming out with us when we're hanging out in town?

Me: Yeah, why aren't I?

I never did get explicitly invited. ...It also occurred to me later that I may have come off as sarcastic, but I genuinely meant it as "I don't know how this 'hanging out' thing works".

unrelated to the post: why did I genuinely think whygena posted this when I saw your avatar on my feed 
@asterism Forgive me, I don't read implicit social cues very well and I subsist on the blood of mortals.

@asterism wtf, I would just assume they are being

There is still so much neurotypical language I have to learn

@asterism what do you mean some folks invite like this??

@asterism

Specifically because these exact same phrases get used as rejection messages when asking, "Hey, wanna hang out?"