Ben AvelingJun 20
@johnstonphilip @i_cannot_today @kevin i just assume that anyone arguing against voting democrat is a Trump supporter.
Show threadLeelooJun 20

@BenAveling @johnstonphilip @i_cannot_today @kevin
I, on the other hand, am not assuming, I know without a doubt, that if you are willing to vote for the guy who supports genocide, you are no different than those who vote for the guy who dreams of genocide.

Accept it, the days of "we may be the bad guys, but we are not the other bad guys" being enough to win an election is over. Fascism is fascism, whether it's red or blue fascism.

Show threadPhil JohnstonJun 20
@leeloo @BenAveling @i_cannot_today @kevin that’s like saying you won’t take the bus that takes you north because you need to go east, when the only connection to the east line is north of you. Sometimes you gotta do whatever gets you closer. It’s called pragmatism.
Show threadLeelooJun 20

@johnstonphilip @BenAveling @i_cannot_today @kevin
No, it is not. Voting in support of fascism has never been and will never be the way out of fascism.

Your favorite fascist party may be slightly slower at getting there, but as long as you keep voting for them, they will eventually.

The only way to get the message across to a political party is to stop voting for them until it sinks in (or pay more than the fascist billionaires, but few of us have that option).

Show threadBen Aveling

Given a choice between the road that definitely goes to fascism now, and the road that you say goes to fascism slowly and maybe you are right, you got what you wanted. Congratulations.

@leeloo @johnstonphilip @i_cannot_today @kevin

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Show threadLeelooJun 20

@BenAveling @johnstonphilip @i_cannot_today @kevin
Not yet. The democrats haven't gotten the message yet, and we've already seen that it takes more than four years of Trump for them to get it.

They are still "reaching across the middle", FFS, helping Trump out when his policies get so bad that he can't get enough republican support.

This will take a long time. I suspect a few of the worst democrats need to die of old age before we get to see a democrat party that opposes Donald Trump.

Show threadBen AvelingJun 20

@leeloo This is of course the problem - the more people see of fascism, the less they like it. But by that stage, it probably doesn't matter any more.

@johnstonphilip @i_cannot_today @kevin