new blogpost:

matrix is cooked
matrix is cooked

Those are the contents of a post I recently made, but really that and even the replies I made are not the full story Truth is, to get ri...

Alexia

@alexia I saw Beeper being bought by Automattic months ago and that confuses me

imagine Automattic Chat

I hope this turns out like Threads lol

@iacore Automattic has also invested into Element so...

@alexia tbh, I do not understand the business model of Automattic

seems like it's 2B only

@alexia about moderation... it's hard for moderators to implement their own moderation tools

I hope Matrix or Fedi servers support mods like in games

Bret Victor's vision for computing is that everyone can make software for their own needs

@iacore People tried making their own moderation tools, only to fail at the limits of the core protocol's design.

They are not sufficient.
@alexia what are the limits? i want to know

@alexia i can personally vouch for ircv3. it's not feature rich, it's not perfect, a lot of features you would expect to be there in an IM platform aren't (yet).

But if you want instant messaging that is useable right now and will still exist in 30 years, irc is your safest bet

@SRAZKVT
@alexia IRC promotes one of the worst things to do in the modern internet: clicking on random links to display basic things as images or code paste's

@sandro @alexia yes, that's why clients are working on how to auto display images (like what discord does with links) and why ircv3 is working on a on multiline message specification

it's not fast, but it is moving, and is a reliable fallback in case all else fails

@alexia As far as I can tell, Polyphony isn't ready for use yet? I think the Discord-compatible part is Symfonia, but that seems very WIP.

What do you think about Spacebar? I'd imagine similar to Revolt given that it's not federated?

@Misofist

Polyphony actually came from Spacebar and was initially intended to be a new server implementation for that project. Either way I think I haven't heard of anything really happening with spacebar in years.

@alexia I notice you don’t mention Signal (https://signal.org/), Molly (https://github.com/mollyim/mollyim-android), or Briar (https://briarproject.org/) in the recommendations/anti-recommendations

do you mind my asking if they were intentional omissions? 0:

Signal Messenger: Speak Freely

Say "hello" to a different messaging experience. An unexpected focus on privacy, combined with all of the features you expect.

Signal Messenger
@slightlyflightyone

briar I just lowkey forgot about, but Molly (and in extension signal) I have actually intentionally ignored, as I was focusing on things that are federated or otherwise sufficiently decentralized

Molly is great, I use it daily, just not what I was looking for :)
Revolt I only even included because I got multiple people telling me to include it, and even then I
made clear why I don't personally recommend it as an alternative to matrix

@alexia I guess Revolt makes sense if the primary way you think of Matrix is as a Discord alternative, but I always have thought of it more like “a Signal alternative that gives off way too many red flags for me to rely on” instead of “a Discord alternative that none of my friends will use”

thank you for the clarification tho c:

@alexia it's funny to read about matrix and for profit element. i spent a month trying to get them to collaborate on a proposal for a gov contract couple years ago and was ignored. didn't get the feeling they were pressed for turning a profit.
@alexia The worst thing is that all the decisions that resulted in foundation being where it is can be traced back to Element, who was directly in control of the foundation for most of its existence. The community kept pointing out how problematic that is the whole time.
@shine yeah it's nuts because it got so bad that EVEN MATTHEW admit that just hoping Element will fix everything was a horrible idea
@alexia That should come with quite an apology to the community, with how he treated everyone who disagreed with him.
@alexia Well matrix is one of those examples were an overly complex protocol leads to political and economical problems. Since it's insanely complex, there is very little software. There is essentially one client and one server.
@casandro I'd definitely disagree to the client part; There's plenty of those

but server implementations? Not a lot. and those which are there suffer from the fact that the JSON parser in Synapse is faulty and
will reject events for not ordering the JSON data right despite the fact that the order shouldn't matter

in other words, they have a hard time actually federating with Synapse, further making an open network with multiple server implementations difficult
@alexia So far I've only found some that basically don't work... and Element.
@casandro I found that cinny works well as a client, doesn't make the network better though