Why do old people always seem angry? (I've never had a positive experience with old people, every grandparent or elderly relative always have insulting remarks about me)

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Why do old people always seem angry? (I've never had a positive experience with old people, every grandparent or elderly relative always have insulting remarks about me) - sh.itjust.works

No offense to old people, its just an observation I’ve made.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen my grandparents angry in my life.

EDIT: Honestly, my in-person experience with people who are like…70+ is that they’ve been pretty mellow. Maybe they go off and rage in private or something, but hasn’t been where I see it.

Lucky. My grandma would yell at my cat as a proxy of yelling at me 😿

As an old woman myself, I’m sorry to you and your little cat too. Sounds like you got stuck with crappy old losers. I hope you meet other old people who treat you nicer.

I am angry a lot, but it’s because as a kid I thought the world was getting better, more tolerant and caring etc. and instead it keeps getting worse, more fascistic and hateful and filthy and destroyed. Every time we take a step forward we get smacked down backwards about six. It’s exhausting. But we do still have to keep trying to take those positive steps every day.

My grandparents were chill af too, even if my grandpa was a ‘serious’ man (just a sober and athletic family guy of virtue, which means I still have a long way to go, lol). But, while broke, they were also happily married, only death (shortly) separated them.
Some of this is because they’re living with pain. Your body breaks down as you get older. Some of it is Fox News brainwashing.
Nah it’s not. I’ve been living with chronic back pain every day for 20 years and it hasn’t made me cranky. I have definitely lost some patience with blatant stupidity and what other people think, but my default interaction mode is ‘be chill and get along with everyone’.
I’ve been living with chronic back pain for years as well. And I definitely get short sometimes when I’m in pain. It makes me tired and cranky sometimes and takes its toll. I have asked my family to remind me when I’m acting like a “grumpy old man”.
Sure, in bad moments I get short-tempered like anyone else in pain, I more meant generally speaking. I’m not cranky all the time by any means, even though I hurt all the time.

After my parents retired and had a lot more time to be home and just have Fox News on all the time in the background they defo moved more to the right. They can’t defend their positions without resorting to fox news talking points or “all policies are the same” or “you just have to protect yourself from the government”.

My sister and I are deviated that we’ve lost them to propaganda.

Don’t forget decades of interacting with toxic aerosols like lead oxide.
If every interaction you’ve had is bad, look for the common denominator
Maybe I should just kill myself like they’ve been telling me to.

Pretty much every comment in this thread is agrees with me.

Take a look at yourself.

🤔 Why is a pedophile in my thread?

A damn fine roast you threw together there
Lmao that explains so much about them
Brooooo lmao
Now I’m imagining you modlog checking every commenter here lol
I wouldn’t take most ban reasons at face value. He could be a pedo, or could have pointed out a law for clarification and the worst possible motivation was assumed.
You're going to get banned for pedophilia apology with a reasoned opinion like that one.
Alternatively, you can find purpose in trying to be a little better version of yourself every day.
What's old? I'm 53 and hate pretty much everything I see. I have a Grumpy Bear on my dashboard so we can bitch about other drivers. I'm in near constant pain from a back problem and can't do very many fun things anymore. And every single day I make every interaction with everyone I come across as pleasnt and fun as I possibly can. I make eye contact and say please and thank you. I tease and joke with everyone I see. Just because I'm a curmudgeonly old fuck doesn't mean I have to bum other people out. But maybe I'm not old yet.

Sounds like you are old in the right way and also in the inveitable way, there is no number that makes you old in the wrong way nor any number before death that precludes you from filling your heart with fire and fighting for younger more privileged? generations.

Our heart is any age we desire right up to and through our last moment together

Sorry about the people jumping you with 0 context. Not everyone here is like that.

All people can be shitty. Sounds like you had the misfortune of running into a bunch of old people who fit the bill.

lol, everyone blames you!

It’s bc we’re fed up, we’ve got zero to lose, and bc “Fuck you and your wooden fuckin’ leg!”

hth

What the fuck is going on in these comments?

I can’t say I agree with your observation. I have met a lot of older people that were kind and positive. I have also met some that were jerks.

The common denominator seems much fewer fucks to give though, so I’ve hardly ever seen the “good vibrations” old people hang out with the miserable ones. Why would they? So if you only see miserable elders, it doesn’t have to be you, but it might be your environment. If you change the people you surround yourself with, it might get better. If the kind and caring people don’t want your company, that is another story - then you might want to look at yourself for reasons.

For all we know you could be a victim in an abusive family. I’m sorry to see that people are blaming you without further asking about your circumstances.

FWIW I think it’s a bad older-generation thing, to express your affection by criticizing someone and insulting them. I had one older relative tell me that if you wanted someone to know that you loved them, you had to be a little mean to them. There was even a saying “spare the rod and spoil the child” to justify physical punishment.

To be sure, sometimes you need to be direct and critical and rigid, but it should not develop into abuse. If you feel you are in an abusive relationship, please reach out for help.

I have had the exact opposite experience for the most part, but sometimes hurt people hurt people and older people can carry a lot of pain from life.
Some people are just assholes. I’m 52 and I think I’m pretty chill.

I have observed that sometimes old people don’t understand their opinion is unwanted.

I’m approaching old. I need to remind myself that I don’t understand the struggles the youth have these days. I had it hard, sure, but their struggles and worries are not the same as mine. It’s a different world.

So unsolicited advice + thinking the kids are doing it wrong is an easy path to mean/angry.

I’m also old and i feel this way about many young people. I understand and appreciate that they’re experiencing many things for the first time, but sometimes their oversharing is exhausting.

Unsolicited advice disguised as a question.incoming: is your relationship with these young people such that you have to listen?

I do mentorship (which is actually very perplexing that they want me to do this lol) and it takes so much energy that I have to really space it out but other than that I mostly kinda just let them do their own thing and don’t pay much mind unless asked to 🤷🏻‍♀️

Most times i probably zone out. With family i try hard to listen.
What are the insults? All the old people around me are very nice.

Sorry you’re experiencing that. I think it would have a lot to do with your area; I live on an island which is basically hippie central for my province and although there are some bite-your-head-off-leopards-ate-my-face-shit-head-old-people, they are somewhat few (but more then one would expect). Most of the old people I’ve met have been pretty chill, perhaps it’s the legacy of secret cannabis farms.

To me, from what little you’ve said it seems you need to kick people out of your life. I haven’t spoken to my parents in about 4 months because the veneer of kindness was wearing thin and aggravating me.

Ideological incongruences and emotional issues add up as time goes by, if they remain unexamined.
It is very hard to be nice when you are in physical pain.

Your senior aged family members just seem to suck but we only got a single sentence of detail.

Old people are not universally mean lol. Honestly it seems to me that almost every asshole I knew since a young age was an asshole in their childhood, teens, and adulthood so far. I figure that won’t change. There’s some exceptions, but it seems very hard to change personality.

Yeah, most people tend to approach things from a positive or negative default and time seems to reinforce that unless a very major life experience shakes that up.
I met some of the nicest old people at the protest yesterday. Maybe you just have a bad sample set in your area
They were some of the most inspiring people I met yesterday. It’s great seeing people my parents age that are engaged and want to make the world a better place for their kids and grandkids.

“Everybody hates you when you’re 23” said some wise punk rocker.

There are a lot of idiots in the world, and some of them are old.

Old people may seem angry because they’ve seen a lot of crap and it just keeps coming in new, unexpected forms.

Older folks can seem more angry than other demographics for a few reasons: pain from physical deterioration, disappointment in their life’s circumstances with fewer/no realistic opportunities to better them, people very close to them dying, worldviews that conflict with the realities of modern life, etc. It depends on the individual but pain and the whole “less time left on this earth” thing are more commonly experienced in seniors than other demographics.

But this is talking about this in general - to give you a useful answer, I’d want to know more about the details re: your interactions with elderly folks. Only one I saw in this thread was old folks telling you to kill yourself - it’s rare someone cold leads with that unless it’s online (in which case the answer is always living, happily, in spite). What happens before that?

I mean… Have you looked around the world lately? What isn’t rage inducing? Now couple that with your body falling apart and feeling the pain of aging more and more the closer you get to your final days.
Being really old probably sucks. I’d be mad too.
That doesn’t justify being an entitled divkhead.
Some assholes hang around with other assholes because 1) it validates them, 2) it gives them someone to argue with,3) they have no one else because normal people cut them out of their lives

From what I’ve seen, especially since COVID, is that society has changed beyond their understanding and now a lot of things are strange and scary. Worse, a lot of the skills they should have learned to understand the present day weren’t learned for various reasons, so getting over the hump of understanding is now a lot higher than previous.

Anger is a common reaction to fear and confusion.

It’s just the whiskey talking.
The old people at my UU church seem pretty chill

Young people aren’t angry? They look quite upset to (old) me, and rightfully so. I probably would be a lot more than they are, to be honest.

One remark, maybe:

The few old people around you does not represent a valid statistical sample for ‘old people’ in general. You need a lot more data.

No offense intended, maybe it’s like that because you’re living in a family that is keen on hating and insulting one another? The only thing I would feel ok to conclude from that is they may very well be dickheads, every single one of them, but that doesn’t mean all people their age are the same. Don’t generalize ;)

To help you realize how… too fast such conclusions can be made, and no doubt how wrong they can be, consider this simple observation one may want to make reading your question:

The only constant in your interactions with older people is yourself. How come you may ask? Well, they’re all different (old) people that don’t share the exact same age, sex and personality (taste and preferences), maybe they don’t even live all at the same place. Meanwhile, you’re the exact same person. You do not change and you’re not different, they are. So, if every single one of those different and older persons you meet is hating on you shouldn’t I conclude that you’re the most likely cause of their hate?

See how easy it is to come to some nutty conclusion out of mere ‘observations’?

To be perfectly clear, I 'm not saying it’s you that’s causing anything. Far from it. First, for the simple reason that I never met you and then because you probably are not the cause of anything here. Like I said, there is not enough data to conclude anything. Still it’s so easy to conclude that it’s your fault and from there that if it’s your fault it’s all younger people’s fault—it’s not ;)

To share my own personal experience, as a child (I was young, once) I knew very early on my mother hated my guts. I started by wondering why adults where such assholes towards kids up until I realized that was not ‘all adults’ nor ‘all mothers’, it was her. That unique person she was for reasons that were her own that certainly would not allow me or anyone else to generalize her behavior to all mothers.

All of that to say there could be a lot of reasons and factors unrelated to their age.

every grandparent or elderly relative always have insulting remarks about me

I have been young myself (promise I really was, and one day you will be old too) and my grand-parents never insulted me. Not once. And as an older person myself nowadays I tend to not insult… not too often ;)

Probably confirmation bias. Content, happy people are generally not screaming out at the world about their happiness.

I’ve been noticing already. The older I am the angrier I get.

Mostly because as years pass I notice how most people is just bad people. Losing faith in humanity makes me angry at humanity.