TIL No Kings Protests were the 3rd Largest in US History

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TIL No Kings Protests were the 3rd Largest in US History - Lemmy.ca

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Literally all of these except number 23 and 31 are left wing protests.

Let that sink in 32/34 that’s over 94% of the biggest protests in the US were left wing.

We are the majority. Stop believing in the Reagenesque “silent majority” BS.

The majority of people, dont want oligarchs and conservative bigotry.

Then why is the government so completely dominated by the right if most politically active people are on what Americans call the left?
My take is that there are a lot of Left people who won’t vote for anyone except a candidate they support 100%. Hilary Clinton should have destroyed Trump. Those people ignore the simple truth that any time any GOP gets elected the whole country moves to the right.

You’re right of course, the left is responsible for anything the right does. Would you care for a glass of soap?

Edit: Not only do they not understand burden of proof as a concept, they’re a pedophile. Don’t waste your time.

There are two sides. The Right and everyone else. The Right wins because they stay on topic and vote. Until the rest of us fall in line like they do, they’ll keep on winning. Show me where I’m wrong.

You’re wrong by blaming the fictional non voting left for all your woes. Don’t be stupid.

It’s very simple. 36% of people didn’t vote on average. What percent of those people are leftists? If you don’t have that information, then you’re making shit up and demanding other people prove it for you.

You’re saying I’m wrong, and not providing anything like actual information. Why don’t you give me some facts and figures to explain it?
Making stupid claims and then demanding proof they aren’t true is pretty weak

lol!

You are very funny!

And yes, I am laughing at you.

Laugh away, kiddy diddler.

So, instead of actually doing research to prove me wrong, you went through all my threads and found something you can take out of context?

That makes you even funnier!

There’s your tankie behavior.
There is an evil witch that lives underground in the Moon and who is mind-controlling non-Rightwing votes in the US so that they don’t vote. Show me were I’m wrong.
Donald Trump won the election in 2016 over Hilary Clinton. How much more evidence do you need that people should have done more to defeat Donald and the GOP?

That’s as much “evidence” for your original “two sides” theory as it is for my “witch in the Moon” theory.

Also you’ve moved the goalposts to a self-fullfilling and generic to the point of uselessness statement “people should have done more to defeat Donald and the GOP”.

That’s like saying that “all drivers in car crashes should have done more not to crash their cars”.

Well, true, but also about as worthless as “insights” go as “the sky is blue”.

Let’s turn it around.

What’s your plan? How do you propose to get Trump out? Be very specific.

Trump is a symptom, not the disease.

By worring so much about the puppet instead of the puppet masters, you’re playing into the hands of the handful of people who control the politics of the US and hence the US.

Go after the real power of the land: the ultra-wealthy.

A General Strike would be a good start.

lol! You demand specifics and plans, and then throw out two words. “General strike.”

Details, please. Who is the leader? What is the date? What are your demands? How are you going to handle invalids and homebound folks who need food and meds delivered? Schools open or close?

By exactly using the MAGA the technique of, after ranting about blaming everybody else but yourself about all maner of problems, “asking” for others to provide solutions only to crticize them when given them, you’ve just proved what I suspected, so thanks for that.

Whatever is the way to solve the US problems, it’s the very opposite of that “criticized everything and everybody shit” that you, EXACTLY LIKE THE FAR-RIGHT POPULISTS are doing.

Literally being a fucking rock does more towards solving the situation in the US than what you are doing.

Whether because you’re a sock-puppet or because you’re the ultimate useful idiot, you are part of the problem, not of the solution.

By exactly using the MAGA the technique of, after ranting about blaming everybody else but yourself about all maner of problems, “asking” for others to provide solutions only to criticize them when given them, you’ve just proved what I suspected, so thanks for that.

You realize you’re literally describing exactly what you did. You demanded details then couldn’t come up with anything but a pipe dream.

And if I’m doing what MAGA did, what is the problem? Patton was the general the Germans feared the most, because he fought exactly the way they did.

And I love the last line. If I am the problem, what is the solution? Again, give me a lot of details.

Things like who is going to organize this general strike?

You’re lying about what I wrote

Quote the exact words were I “blamed everybody” or even “asked for a solution”.

Once again you’re using a ploy straight out of the Fascist Manual of Argumentation: “When accused of something, accuse the other person of the same, lying if need be.”

From the Fascist Manual of Argumentation you so far have:

  • “Made broad claims about how everybody else is responsible for societal problems without providing any evidence at all of those claims. Demand that other do the work of disproving it when you yourself didn’t do the work of trying to prove it”
  • “When asked to back that theory with actual evidence, state a fact that is not logically linked to the theory you put forward, and hence cannot logically prove it”.
  • “When pointed out that there is no logical link between that event and your theory, counter-attack by demanding the impossible those pointing it out (in this case a “specific and detailed plan” for the problems of America as if that was easy) and when they naturally cannot deliver the impossible, use that to go down some “I win” rant whilst continuing to avoid the original point they made”.
  • “When they point out the nature of the argumentation ploys you’re using to avoid addressing the original points they made, LIE about what they wrote to claimed that it was THEY who actually did it”.

If you were arguing in good faith you would’ve either walked back on that theory, refined it some more, or tried to actually show there was a logical link between “Donald Trump winning the election in 2016 over Hilary Clinton” and “There are two sides. The Right and everyone else. The Right wins because they stay on topic and vote.”.

You did not. Instead you went for the “Demand the impossible and when the impossible is not delivered claim that it proves the other person is not wrong” ploy, same as the MAGAs do.

And you’re doing… what, exactly?

I’m still trying to get a response to my original point that

“There are two sides. The Right and everyone else. The Right wins because they stay on topic and vote. Until the rest of us fall in line like they do, they’ll keep on winning.”

does not logically follow from

“Donald Trump won the election in 2016 over Hilary Clinton”

and hence the latter does not prove the former.

The whole ploy of the other post in, when I pointed that out, demanding that I do the impossible and provide a “specific” and “detailed” plan to “get Trump out” (as if I’m some kind of omniscient divinity that can produce a specific and detailed plan for something as complex as that out of the top of my mind), followed by using my inability to do the impossible as evidence that I must be wrong about my earlier point, is just a common argumentation ploy to distract away from the point I made rather than address it, and specifically a ploy that the MAGAs constantly use.

Of course I don’t have a “specific” and “detailed” plan to “get Trump out”, and neither has the poster who demanded that I provided one in the full expectation that I couldn’t - if it was that easy that even an internet rando could come up with a “specific and detailed plan” for it, it would’ve already happened.

If you read the thread back you will notice that I made a good faith attempt at providing at least some ideas, whilst the other poster has not put forward a single positive solutions oriented idea, only criticism (and “always criticism never solutions” is exactly the political strategy of populists)