NiléaneThis. So fucking this.
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It's Soooo 4D@nileane No one beleives they're fighting Hamas in Gaza. They're doing a genocide for the sake of killing all the Palestinians. That's it. They're not even hiding it anymore. They know they're backed by the us. They do it because they can and no one stop them.
zaunkoenig@zaunkoenig @nileane "genocide" is not a personal opinion to be discussed like " i beleive it is/ i beleive it isn't....blablabla...". It is a legal term that describes precise, documented, facts. All international relevant legal authorities in that matter qualify it as a genocide. And we all know Israël is an outlaw pariah state which has no authority on that matter.
Rob van Kan@zaunkoenig @so4D @nileane You are just another German unloading their WWII guilt trip on the Palestinians.
Leave them out of your national trauma, they ran no camps and loaded up no trains. There is no reason whatsoever that Palestinians should die for what the Germans did to the Jews 80 years ago.
Leave them out of your national trauma, they ran no camps and loaded up no trains. There is no reason whatsoever that Palestinians should die for what the Germans did to the Jews 80 years ago.
@edgeofeurope @so4D @nileane I have no guilt at all. I'm from the there are religious fanatics and nationalists in power and all sides are crazy and cruel team. I do not know whom to dislike most.
@edgeofeurope @so4D @nileane Justice for whom? The people? Sure. But I don't know if Bibi, Hamas, Hisbollah, ... is worse. Bibi has the best weapons so he looks terrible, but assume Hamas, Hisbollah or the Iranian government had better weapons. That would be a bigger massacre.
@zaunkoenig @so4D @nileane No, simply justice for those who have been kicked off their land because WE as Europeans fucked up. We did not want the Jews, first the Brits (Balfour) and then Nazi Germany (Madagaskarplan) came with an idea to relocate them far away from ourselves. And in the end the Palestinians are still paying, every day, for our antisemitism.
and to thank them for it, we call them antisemites.
And you're stuck in "Hamas" and "Bibi." They are the consequence of history WE wrote.
@edgeofeurope @so4D @nileane The idea to create the state Israel was driven by religious nationalism, but the reason for the conflict lies in the hate between fanatic Arabs and fanatic Israelis. When the Jews came to Palestine, Arabs started pogroms and the Israelis killed Arabs as well. It is not just "blame Europe" or "blame the Arabs". The big number or Palestinian refugees is not just a result of Israeli nationalism, but as well of Palestinian nationalism trying to destroy Israel.
@zaunkoenig @so4D @nileane no, the reason is that the Palestinans were driven off their land to create Israel. Read a book first, don't bother me with this nonsense.
@edgeofeurope @so4D @nileane Think whatever you want. But stating that Europe and Jews in Palestine were the agressors and Palestinians the victims driven out of their land is a simplistic and wrong picture. We live in times where simplification and "good and bad"-thinking are more popular.
FelisCatus@zaunkoenig @edgeofeurope @so4D @nileane
Why is every genocide denier I come across on here German? Every. Single. One.
You should be ashamed of yourselves.
@FelisCatus @zaunkoenig @so4D @nileane The Germans - I've talked to a few - think that because of their history it is impossible for them to let the Israelis down.
Somehow they still think it's all about the Jews. It's not. It's about genocide.
@edgeofeurope @FelisCatus @so4D @nileane I heard this several times, but this is plain wrong. Our foreign ministers criticise Israel and I personally think that the religious nationalism was and is a bad idea. However, you write like one of those brainwashed Palestinians=good Israelis=bad guys.
@edgeofeurope @FelisCatus @so4D @nileane When you write "Palestinians were driven of their land to create Israel", what important part did you leave out?
@zaunkoenig @FelisCatus @so4D @nileane I see I left out one f in 'off'. Sorry about that.
I'm not going to correct every wrong idea you have about the birth of Israel. Inform yourself and until you do, stop bothering people with this nonsense.
@zaunkoenig @FelisCatus @so4D @nileane
Try here https://www.palestineremembered.com/
Check for example: "Who still owns the land?"
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@edgeofeurope @FelisCatus @so4D @nileane Instead of weird sources, I prefer something like Wikipedia. Like facts, you know?
@edgeofeurope @zaunkoenig@mastodon.online @so4D @nileane yeah I know but I don't know. At least they should be honest with themselves : yes, Israel is committing a genocide, but we are supporting it because our history makes it so that we have to 🤷♂️