@nileane No one beleives they're fighting Hamas in Gaza. They're doing a genocide for the sake of killing all the Palestinians. That's it. They're not even hiding it anymore. They know they're backed by the us. They do it because they can and no one stop them.

@so4D @nileane If they would want to do that, they have the weapons. So why didn't they kill more people in Gaza when they could?

That genocide thing was propaganda from the very first days. They commit "ordinary" war crimes. Otherwise name a major war between two countries without genocide.

@zaunkoenig @nileane "genocide" is not a personal opinion to be discussed like " i beleive it is/ i beleive it isn't....blablabla...". It is a legal term that describes precise, documented, facts. All international relevant legal authorities in that matter qualify it as a genocide. And we all know Israël is an outlaw pariah state which has no authority on that matter.
@so4D @nileane You should know that this is not true.
@zaunkoenig you should plug your neurone.

@so4D @zaunkoenig they starving people to death, firing at the ones who try to reach the very little help that is let in, they've killed 18000 children , more than 15000 below the age of 14, the defense minister said 'they are animals that do not deserve to live' ... But the important question is : is the word genocide rightly used ?

What the fuck goes through your mind ?

@zaunkoenig @so4D @nileane You are just another German unloading their WWII guilt trip on the Palestinians.
Leave them out of your national trauma, they ran no camps and loaded up no trains. There is no reason whatsoever that Palestinians should die for what the Germans did to the Jews 80 years ago.
@edgeofeurope @so4D @nileane I have no guilt at all. I'm from the there are religious fanatics and nationalists in power and all sides are crazy and cruel team. I do not know whom to dislike most.
@zaunkoenig @so4D @nileane it's not about likes or dislikes. It's about justice.
@edgeofeurope @so4D @nileane Justice for whom? The people? Sure. But I don't know if Bibi, Hamas, Hisbollah, ... is worse. Bibi has the best weapons so he looks terrible, but assume Hamas, Hisbollah or the Iranian government had better weapons. That would be a bigger massacre.

@zaunkoenig @so4D @nileane No, simply justice for those who have been kicked off their land because WE as Europeans fucked up. We did not want the Jews, first the Brits (Balfour) and then Nazi Germany (Madagaskarplan) came with an idea to relocate them far away from ourselves. And in the end the Palestinians are still paying, every day, for our antisemitism.

and to thank them for it, we call them antisemites.
And you're stuck in "Hamas" and "Bibi." They are the consequence of history WE wrote.

@edgeofeurope @so4D @nileane The idea to create the state Israel was driven by religious nationalism, but the reason for the conflict lies in the hate between fanatic Arabs and fanatic Israelis. When the Jews came to Palestine, Arabs started pogroms and the Israelis killed Arabs as well. It is not just "blame Europe" or "blame the Arabs". The big number or Palestinian refugees is not just a result of Israeli nationalism, but as well of Palestinian nationalism trying to destroy Israel.
@zaunkoenig @so4D @nileane no, the reason is that the Palestinans were driven off their land to create Israel. Read a book first, don't bother me with this nonsense.
@edgeofeurope @so4D @nileane Think whatever you want. But stating that Europe and Jews in Palestine were the agressors and Palestinians the victims driven out of their land is a simplistic and wrong picture. We live in times where simplification and "good and bad"-thinking are more popular.