ByteOnBikesJudge rules Trump illegally deployed the National Guard in California
ZachariahA federal judge has ruled that President Donald Trump acted illegally in deploying the National Guard to address protests in the Los Angeles area.
In a ruling issued Thursday evening, U.S. District Judge Charles Breyer wrote that such use of the National Guard was a violation of the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution and exceeded the statutory authority granted to the president.
The order, which takes effect Friday, says the administration must return control of the California National Guard to the state of California.
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Doesn’t he have immunity now?
They may not be able to prosecute him, but they can make him stop what he’s doing. Theoretically.
It does seem the power of the judiciary will be challenged quite soon.
It will probably be with a tweet saying “Make me. You and what army?” and the courts will need to rely on the US military choosing the Constitution over the Commander in Chief.
May we all have the fortune to live securely in less interesting times. I suppose it is our duty to make that happen.
M0oP0oIt does seem the power of the judiciary will be challenged quite soon.
I think that happened some time ago.
And when he inevitably doesn’t listen they’ll make a really strong pouty face.
Court: “Deploying National Guard in LA is illegal”
orange dickhead: "KILL THESE ‘LOOTERS’ IN NYC!
See, this is the problem. Doesn’t even matter unless this category of actions are enjoined.
Might be true, but since the orders are illegal, the NG are following illegal orders if they continue, meaning potential court martia (depending on many factors).
LillyPipHe does, but anyone following illegal orders doesn’t. Sure, he could pardon them, but only after a long, expensive, and potentially life-changing legal battle after which they’re convicted.
That doesn’t sound like a fight most regular troops should want to gamble on.
Pardons can be pre-emptive, as long as the illegal act has already occured. (Pardons cannot apply to a future crime that haven’t happened yet.)
Just look at Ford Pardon Nixon.
That’s true, but trump is transactional. He and Giuliani were selling them for 2 million a pop. How many military regulars can afford one? Why should trump care to pardon them if they can’t give him something?
If I was rank-and-file, I wouldn’t take that bet.
lumpenproletariatOkay?
Nothing matters without a consequence. Show me a judge who will put a warrant out on Trump and enforce it.
It’s paused on appeal now, but there was never going to be a consequence for Trump personally because he’d argue “official act.” There’d only be the return of control of the CA National Guard troops to Governor Newsom So they could be sent to help with wildfire situations, for instance. Then again, will people even trust them to help with an evacuation anymore?
Yeah, everyone should remember that the Supreme Court fucked you all by paving the way for this, and the rest of the Legislative branch as well by either ignoring their duty or actively supporting a massive overreach in power and outright ignoring existing limits.
It’s already been paused on appeal.
The legal system is just not equipped to deal with the threat implied by Trump.
In the US it seems like judges are just another executive arm of the government anyway.
The few actual judges still considering the law just get perpetually paused with appeals and what have you.
Innuendo Studios becoming more prevalent, and more prescient.
Way too spot on. The video “How to Radicalize a Normie” should be mandatory study in middle school… Then high school, then every year thereafter.
jballsAt first I was like “this video is 6 years old, how could this possibly be relevant to this conversation?”
Then I watched the video and realized, “yep… same shit, different day.” The conservative playbook hasn’t changed a bit and Democrats keep falling for it.
This world really is worth living, but we have a lot of work
I hate to say this, but you could go back 40 years and this would still be true. 6 years ago, TACO was still in office.
Temporary order while they consider it. Could still go either way.
So…just let him keep breaking the law until it reaches the Supreme Court? I thought they were supposed to pause his actions, pending appeal…not let him keep going.
just let him keep breaking the law until it reaches the Supreme Court?
Also after it reaches the Supreme Court.
The Supreme Court has already ruled against him several times this year alone
That doesn’t mean he has to obey those rulings.
He did technically return Abrego Garcia, but then he filed some trumped-up charges against him.
So yea, even if they comply, they are only doing malice compliance.
The National Guard should release all arrested protesters, return to base and tell the Governor of California that they are “reporting for duty”. If not, they are traitors (already before but then even more so).
He will just ignore it, and double down. Nothing will happen.
Venus_ZiegenfalleNothing will happen.
The judge might get fired.
Or at least get right wing death threats and have any security stripped away, followed by being doxxed by the head of the judicial branch and DOJ.
The question is whether the California National Guard will follow Trump’s orders or Newsom’s orders in a situation where a court has ruled that Newsom is who they currently work for.
It’s been paused on appeal…
“Oooooohhhhhh, you broke the law, president trump!”
“…yeah? And?”
And nothing happened.
KingJalopy No no you don’t understand… The PRESIDENT broke a law… This is like yuge. America won’t stand for this.
Jkjk this is just Thursday, tune in tomorrow night for night TGIF! If I haven’t seen it, it’s new to me!
Hello fellow millennial or older.
-☆-That means all those troops were following illegal orders.
Lock them all up. Pure evil. Orders should always be considered against the interpretation of law.
Exactly, stop going after trump. Go after every officer and government agents who followed those orders. See how fast they enforce his bullshit when they’re facing personal consequences
GuyFawkesCan’t that asshole just pardon them though?
Yeah, but maybe Trump issuing illegal orders to the military and offering pardons to those that follow them would be the catalyst Congress needs to pass an amendment limiting presidential pardon power.
Oh my sweet summer child
Yeah, I’m aware realistically that will never happen. I was looking for a silver lining.
Vote republicans out in the mid terms. They’re the ones allowing Donnie’s bullshit.
Maybe someday we’ll honor the 14th amendment, nullifying 47th’s term, rendering all of his pardons void
You know, since enemies of the US cannot hold office
Maybe someday you’ll honor the 2nd Amendment.
I’ve got no problem with the people bearing arms so they may rise up against a tryannical government… like one that has masked goons kidnapping farm workers and meat packers.
Not on state charges. But Newsom doesn want the optics of going after the troops for illegally kicking the shit out of his own constituants, because that would play terribly with the only important demographic for democrats, republican voters.
Will he though?
bthestBut the the military doesn’t follow illegal orders. What’s an illegal order? Well they don’t really know but they definitely won’t follow them!
SnausagesinaBlanketDon’t worry, Chuck Schumer will lower his glasses a little and give Trump a stern look from across town.
BristleconeThen come up with six strongly word questions and send them an email!!! Got em!!!
dougAnd then what?
Oh I know! Those checks and balances start working!
Any day now, annnnnny day.
🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 Now punish him! Do it! 😬
I’m sure that means there will be repercussions
Jail time, no doubt
The past year doesn’t give me the feeling that this will change anything.
Trump is still free and doing his dumbevil stuff
Need more Democrats to sit and wave cardboard signs. Need more protests to run head first into riot shields. Need more leftist to leave social media spaces wide open. Need more Faygo