Jude DabbourJun 12, 2025
Mario Guzmán

When you try to create user interfaces where you don't have distinct and hard separations for compartmentalization, you end up with weird stuff like this. Notice how the horizontal scroll bar is above the Now Playing controls.

Don't try to be too clever where you UI just starts to fall apart.

#WWDC25 #macOSTahoe

Jun 12, 2025 at 2:55amIvory for Mac
Show threadAndyJun 12, 2025
@marioguzman oh my god that scroll bar is “small town government records website from 2004” levels of bad UI design
Show threadClaude (not AI)Jun 12, 2025
@marioguzman it might be time to take that mini player and give it the full media player treatment
Show threadMario GuzmánJun 12, 2025
@czeins sure... which one of these designs I have do you like? This was my own jukebox back in the day.
Show threadClaude (not AI)Jun 12, 2025
@marioguzman Oh wow!!! They're all so good 😍
Show threadjackJun 12, 2025
@marioguzman @czeins omg that reminds me when Xcode was inspired by iTunes to add the little yellow-tinted Now Playing / Status Box… what did they call it? I think there was a name specifically for it.
Show threadMario GuzmánJun 12, 2025
@j4ck @czeins I've only seen it called the "LCD display" but only in context of iTunes.
Show threadClaude (not AI)Jun 12, 2025
@marioguzman @j4ck Whoa. Never seen that
Show threadMario GuzmánJun 12, 2025
@czeins @j4ck The music miniplayer/widget apps is what ultimately became of that music app I posted above. A lot of the same drawing code...
Show threadLucas HJun 12, 2025
@marioguzman this Music app looks hideous! looks more like a playground then an actual product.
Show threadhagenJun 12, 2025
@marioguzman @siracusa
Show threadWalrus 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿Jun 12, 2025

@marioguzman

I detest the way every music player calls every track a song.

Show threadMarc Robinson Jun 12, 2025
@Walrus Same. I've meticulously curated my Music library with the Grouping tag. Song, score, instrumental, diegetic, explicit, live, etc...
Show threadWalrus 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿Jun 12, 2025

@marcintosh

I really wish I had done things like that from the start, but now we have 330 Gbytes of music, it's a bit of a challenge.

Show threadMarc Robinson Jun 12, 2025
@Walrus I probably only have 50-ish GB, but I understand. "One bite at a time."
Show threadTorsteinJun 12, 2025
@marioguzman @siracusa i wonder what goes on sinde Dye's head roght now. Is he getting cold feet? Is he panicking and second guessing? Will he revert most of this or will he just make some adjustments but stick to the redesign? i hope he wont stick with it. the more i look st the more i hate it. its gonna look dated very fast. in fact i think it already looks dated and tacky.
Show threadJude DabbourJun 12, 2025
@marioguzman I’m very excited about the new version ios operating system
Show threadWouter LindenhofJun 12, 2025

@marioguzman

I'm more annoyed by the variations in margins of what I consider the main content. Also the close, maximize and minimize are part of a control instead of the window.

Honestly, this ain't pretty. The individual parts are good, but the combination is bad.

Show threadJoshua JungJun 12, 2025
@marioguzman @siracusa If M.C. Escher designed a user interface.
Show threadRobert RezabekJun 12, 2025
@marioguzman Putting the player controls over the contents frees up so much space at the top. Must be a crack design team.
Show threadMatchaMakesJun 12, 2025
@marioguzman WOW just ran across this screenshot, firs time i'm seeing the menu bar completely transparent. hate that
Show threadRob NeeJun 12, 2025
@marioguzman @siracusa Federighi's design-babble rationalizations for Liquid Glass just didn't land with me. I struggle to see any real benefit that outweighs the myriad micro-aggressions it brings. I suppose the horizontal scrollbar belongs below the controls? It just feels gross though.
Show threadmattcomiJun 12, 2025
@marioguzman from memory, Songs is the only view that scrolls horizontally, right?
Show threadJustin HiltzJun 12, 2025
@marioguzman they sadly probably don’t even want that view to exist anymore even though it’s the only functional and useful view left in the app.
Show threadnSonicJun 12, 2025

@marioguzman @siracusa Steve Jobs ones said: “they absolutely have no taste” …
Yes I know, he was talking about MS back then - but now I’m not so sure anymore 🫣

Please what a piece of Non-Design is that in your screenshot? Almost nothing fits. Padding, color, lines, colors, everything is weirdly off

Show threadRobJun 12, 2025
@marioguzman Looks like they haven’t finished iTunes yet. I guess they’ve still got 3 months to get to it.