Chris Coyier

Talked with @jaffathecake about the possibility of an HTML `<include>`.

Why doesn't it exist? Could it exist? *Should* it exist?

I'm a little obsessed with this.

https://shoptalkshow.com/668/

668: Jake Archibald on Native HTML Includes

Jake Archibald joins us to discuss HTML includes, potential solutions, and the implications of introducing such a feature. We talk about security concerns, performance implications, and community f…

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Show threadAlex RussellJun 10
@chriscoyier @jaffathecake yes, of course it should exist. The TC39 takeover via modules misdirection has been a debacle. Everyone can see that now.
Show threadJake ArchibaldJun 10
@slightlyoff @chriscoyier the thing devs want is different to HTML imports though
Show threadAlex RussellJun 10

@jaffathecake @chriscoyier that's fine. We've had at least a decade to design it.

🦗🦗🦗

Show threadWolfrJun 10
@chriscoyier the first website I ever made, every blog post was its own iframe… I tried to work around not knowing how to program.
Show threadAlfonso Martínez de LizarrondoJun 10
@chriscoyier @jaffathecake I think that some time ago there was some proposal from Google about "portals", or maybe that was related to AMP?
Anyway, all of us have wanted HTML includes since the very beginning.
Show threadJake ArchibaldJun 10
@alfonsoml @chriscoyier that was iframes with even more restrictions, so they could be promoted to the main document.
Show threadAlfonso Martínez de LizarrondoJun 10
@jaffathecake @chriscoyier thank you.
Show threadPaul Robert Lloyd 🐢Jun 10
@chriscoyier @jaffathecake This was such a great episode (and I say that as someone who tends to fast-forward through most interview-based episodes).
Show threadEric NewportJun 10

@chriscoyier @jaffathecake The templating system I built uses exactly those semantics, literally an <include> tag 😀 https://rooseveltframework.org/docs/teddy/latest/usage/#includes

In fact the entire design philosophy of that templating system is to create tags that I wished existed in HTML natively.

That <include> tag implementation reflects the conversation you had on the podcast to some degree: it requires a complete tree and to use it you pass markup fragments to it as arguments.

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