Bakunin BoysYou know the whole "there's no such thing as the perfect protest / protester". Like, I know, and I know the LA protests are valid, but I'm looking at these Trump voting Nazi arse Mexicans thinking "PATHETIC".
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David "Dave" TreloarYeah I remember seeing them and thinking, he does not care about you, same thing happened with the palestinian supporters (muslims), all fooled, he just wanted their support, once he had that, ignore, sucked in.
@trelord75 That's not what I mean. I absolutely am talking about the protests / riots, and not about voting patterns, or about saying "fuck you" to a particular group based on their voting.
Rather, I'm my point is that leftist protests tend to be organised; have goals; have demands. People critique them all the time and the refrain is "there's no such thing as the perfect protest" or "there's no such thing as the perfect protester". That is, the right will use any excuse to water down support of a protest.
In this case, it's more or less just rioting. While no doubt there are leftists involved and trying their best, there's no goal, no organisation, there's no common connection to solidarity. They're literally waving around Mexican flags -- not a diaspora but a foreign nation, leaning right into the right wing idea that this is an "invasion", and these are "foreign enemies".
Any fight for justice is a fight for some form of equality. These guys seem to be fighting for their own privilege. A kind of reverse "fuck you got mine", as a "oh fuck, lost mine".
Yeah I know, but I was also saying I remember seeing some who voted for Trump before the election, all smiles, proud of what they were intending to do, then now we have this and I'm like, well, that's who he is.
Yeah I agree it does seem chaotic, but remember that stuff with Floyd, that was as chaotic & brutal as you could get, it only became more organized later on when they started going after Trump at his base.
A guy on here posted saying Sat is the day, now the organization starts.
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In case you haven't heard (and for the Fediverse, that's likely a vanishingly small number of people), there will be widespread protests against the Trump regime this coming Saturday, June 14. Hop on to your favorite web searching machine, find out where a protest will be near you, and get yourself down there. Myself? I'll be in Downtown Los Angeles. #uspol #losangeles #laprotests #nokings
@trelord75 Yeah, I do think the BLM protests started chaotic, and I do think that these will also become more coherent as time goes on (and I do, sincerely, hope they are effective), but I do think:
- The black (non-leftist) community really was fed up, they *felt* the death in a visceral way.
- Even the term "BLM" needed to be coined and shared. I'd argue the BLM protests *were* organised. Even from the beginning they had pretty clear goals, and;
- Over time the community needed to seriously discuss, for example, defunding the police.
You might argue it went nowhere, but to bring it back to the "no such thing as a perfect protest", yeah, it's really fucking unfair to put so much purchase on a set of protests when the actual political system is so broken. To some extent, I'm reacting here to the way the BLM protesters were treated at the time (and the feminist protesters here in Aus).
Like "yeah, you're still the good guys, but this is weak, and it's because a bunch of you don't know solidarity."