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StametsThe United States is no different than Russia. If anything, y’all are worse.
??? No different than Russia? HAVE YOU READ THE HISTORY OF THE U.S.? THERE ISN’T EVEN A SIDE OF COMPARISON RUSSIA LOOKS LIKE THE LAND OF PEACE COMPARED TO THE U.S.
I suggest you read “Endless Holocausts: Mass Death in the History of the United States Empire”
Try reading about the Russian Civil War some time.
average .world user, how is the Russian civil war worse than anything the U.S.?
From 1917to 1922 between 7-12 million Russians, mostly civilians, were killed. This includes hundreds of thousands of Jews killed in pogroms (genocidal race riots). The Red Terror involved Bolsheviks conducting executions to wipeout political dissent and any threats to their power. The White Terror involved a collection of conservatives, monarchists, and proto-fascists exciting communists and genociding Jews. This doesn’t count people who died in forced labor camps, which by some accounts saw a 10-20% fatality rate per month. There were mass rapes and looting wherever the several armies went. It’s been described to be as close to Hell on Earth as it gets. Between WWI and the Russian Civil War, the total population fell from around 170 million to 134 million.
DessalinesIs your point that the people fighting against Tsarism shouldn’t have done so? That they should’ve continued to suffer without complaint?
Of course the monarchists and reactionaries are going to accuse their opponents of their own crimes, nothing surprising there.
My point is that saying Russia is a “Land of Peace” compared to the US is not historically accurate in the least.
I don’t think that’s being disputed. Both the USA and Russia had incredibly violent labor histories in the late 1800s and 1900s. The main difference is that in Russia, the workers+peasants organized and won, and in the US, they lost.
Either way this both-sidesing of violence makes no sense. You might as well demonize every just cause in history, or every person that defends themselves from an aggressor with that outlook.
I don’t think that’s being disputed.
Tell that to the other people arguing with me. You’re right about the rest though.