IndustryStandard[Video] LA cops force their horses to run over protester
StametsThe United States is no different than Russia. If anything, y’all are worse.
☂️-yup, weve been saying this shit. and that isnt considering the fact they have been doing it to other countries as well for decades.
??? No different than Russia? HAVE YOU READ THE HISTORY OF THE U.S.? THERE ISN’T EVEN A SIDE OF COMPARISON RUSSIA LOOKS LIKE THE LAND OF PEACE COMPARED TO THE U.S.
I suggest you read “Endless Holocausts: Mass Death in the History of the United States Empire”
Try reading about the Russian Civil War some time.
average .world user, how is the Russian civil war worse than anything the U.S.?
Well you see they shot some monarchists and that’s equivalent to murdering tens of millions of brown people somehow.
Buddy I’m already on team “Fuck the Tsar”
A bloody Civil War to end monarchism is no where near what the US gets up to on a regular basis for the sake of making capitalists richer.
The capitalists in Russia aren’t exactly sitting on their hands either. I’m on team “Fuck the Capitalists” no matter where they come from
What if fucking over those specific capitalists is a greater win for the capitalist class worldwide?
PolandIsAStateOfMind[Video] LA cops force their horses to run over protester
If anything, it’s US cops learning from the cossacks, whom tsar always send against people when police was not enough. Running over unarmed people with horses was their favourite tactics.
From 1917to 1922 between 7-12 million Russians, mostly civilians, were killed. This includes hundreds of thousands of Jews killed in pogroms (genocidal race riots). The Red Terror involved Bolsheviks conducting executions to wipeout political dissent and any threats to their power. The White Terror involved a collection of conservatives, monarchists, and proto-fascists exciting communists and genociding Jews. This doesn’t count people who died in forced labor camps, which by some accounts saw a 10-20% fatality rate per month. There were mass rapes and looting wherever the several armies went. It’s been described to be as close to Hell on Earth as it gets. Between WWI and the Russian Civil War, the total population fell from around 170 million to 134 million.
This is not comparable to the U.S. still
If that’s what you call a “Land of Peace”, I don’t think your opinion is worth much.
In comparison to the U.S.
Nothing comparably horrendous to the Russian Civil War has happened in the US.
??? THE GENOCIDE OF THE NATIVES
Which was mostly done by the British, French, Spanish, Dutch, and Russians (Alaska) before the US became a country. Yes, the genocide of the Native Americans was an atrocity, but 90% of it happened within 100 years after Columbus arrived. Even so there was no 5 year period in the US to be that came close to as many deaths as the the years of the Russian Civil War.
Citation?
GraphoUsing whole Wikipedia pages as citations is terminally lib brained. At least cite the specific wikipedia sources jfc.
asking for citations for one of the most important and well known events of the 20th century is lazy and obnoxious.
“Pogrom” was coined in Russia and became well known largely because of the Russian Civil War.
don’t bitch about my comments when you have put absolutely no effort into yours.
“Pogrom” was coined in Russia and became well known largely because of the Russian Civil War.
Weird I distinctly remember reading about pogromists being one consideration for the bolsheviks in how to participate in the 2nd Duma and that was before the Civil War.
It was coined before the civil war, but it spread as a term used outside of Russia because of the civil war.
Could you cite that please? It isn’t that I don’t believe you I just want to know where you learned it.
Looks like I misremembered. It was popularized following the assassination of Tsar Alexander II.
encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/…/pogroms
There were a LOT of pogroms during the Russian Civil War, like 1,500 just from 1918-1920.
Asking citations is how we differentiate for everyone to see the people who know what they’re talking about vs the ignorant libs who have “popular knowledge” and fuck all else. Lazy and obnoxious is the name for the lib playbook, talking about shit they half remember from ~propaganda~ fiction they pretend is the same as history.
I hope you have half as much hate for fascists as you do for libs.
I don’t have the time nor the crayons to simplify the Russian Civil War so you would understand it. Asking for a citation that you could easily do a basic web search for is at best lazy and at worst sealioning.
Imagine thinking you can explain the Russian civil war to a communist with your wikipedia linking ass. Go read an actual book sometime.
Learning the term Sealioning doesn’t absolve you from sourcing your claims, maybe try learning a single concept correctly instead of having confidence that you got the gist of it from the vibes and a twenty second skim of whatever google spit back at you.
A 20 second skim and a link to Wikipedia is all it takes to prove something so obviously false. What part did I get wrong?
DessalinesIs your point that the people fighting against Tsarism shouldn’t have done so? That they should’ve continued to suffer without complaint?
Of course the monarchists and reactionaries are going to accuse their opponents of their own crimes, nothing surprising there.
My point is that saying Russia is a “Land of Peace” compared to the US is not historically accurate in the least.
I don’t think that’s being disputed. Both the USA and Russia had incredibly violent labor histories in the late 1800s and 1900s. The main difference is that in Russia, the workers+peasants organized and won, and in the US, they lost.
Either way this both-sidesing of violence makes no sense. You might as well demonize every just cause in history, or every person that defends themselves from an aggressor with that outlook.
I don’t think that’s being disputed.
Tell that to the other people arguing with me. You’re right about the rest though.
Whatever you say kiddo
Oh fuck right off with that bullshit.
That’s true, the USA is even more disruptive
In the mind of the USAian liberal, this is also because of Russia. Things used to be great, but now they’re bad.
In the minds of anyone with a passing understanding of Russian foreign policy can absolutely see they have their hooks in Trump and you would have to have a significant deficit in logical thinking skills to believe otherwise. That being said that only accounts for some of the war, violence, and agitation the USA is involved in.
The Police DO love a little Fascism.
Not surprising at all, there’s been so many cop brutality incidents over the years. Off the top of my head, a cop broke the arm of an elderly woman with dementia and the cops laughed and joked about it. There was another case where the cops make a man crawl on floor before executing him. People don’t just become monsters overnight. They’ve been trained over the years to behave this way.
FingolfinzThe job also attracts monsters
sad_detective_manshout out to Loveland Colorado, one of the most overfunded police districts in the country. If you haven’t seen that video definitely look it up. It’s not even an altercation it’s literally just two dudes sitting and yukking it up while they torture a screaming geriatric woman.
RaccoonBallBodycams are making a lot more of these available now too. Saw a brutal one where cops paralyze a handcuffed guy by breaking his neck, then they sit prop him up in a sitting position and complain that hes uncooperative because won’t move.
That was a year ago, the dude is dead and the cops got off scott free.
George Floyd? Iirc one of the officers went to prison for that
No, sadly most of the abuse never makes widespread news
Cops Paralyze Handcuffed Man and Mock Him | He Later Dies!
It makes it more available to view, but it hardly does anything to prevent it from being done because the cops face no consequences regardless usually.
Bunch of fucking nazis.
Cowbee [he/they]Disgusting. ACAB.
Lyra_Lycan(From AXN live stream earlier today)
Hell yea. That shot is almost poetic. Hopefully the protestors can stay as safe as they can in the face of the fascist crackdown.
Those aren’t cops, those are murders.
Watched this live all day at work. So much of this shit went on. The whole thing with CHP trapped under the overpasses was set up to be a massacre, but the protestors didn’t kill them.
No commander in his right mind would trap their troops on low ground like that unless it was a sacrifice.
No commander in his right mind would trap their troops on low ground like that unless it was a sacrifice.
Or they know the violent threat they're using as justification is total fiction.
jawa22It seems to me like they are attempting to get protestors to escalate. After a martyr, the mental gymnastics and justifications will spiral with a blinding speed.
Not even escalate, just retaliate at the same level. The first part of the video isn't what will get played on or matter to the viewers of fox news.
Like during Black Lives Matter rallies where pallets of bricks were randomly in the middle of roads.
They’re hoping for bloodshed on the side of police or military, it’s their ticket to ride. They can do whatever they want once they establish the civilian populace as a threat to military personnel. These guys are little more than sacrificial pawns as far as the administration is concerned, they’re hoping that at least one of them meets a violent enough end so they can justify martial law and start unloading on every crowd of protesters.
You got to be fucking kidding me