This is why people don't support big media. Greta Thunberg was kidnapped. Point blank. Was on international waters. Israel is not the world Police. They do not have jurisdiction in international waters. That is kidnapping. No denying it. And not a single large media corporation is mentioning that. What the hell is wrong with this world?
#news #gaza #israel #usa #aid #climate #international
@ThatOneGuyT_T they'll deny anything so long as it means giving the israeli psychopaths the benefit of the doubt yet again :neocat_flop_w:
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The governmemts worship the Zionist state... It can't do something bad.....and nothing will happen to that genocidal state

@vega @ThatOneGuyT_T the world governments are a different thing. However, here the question is why the media is not mentioning it.

And the thing is. There is some coverage (at least the UK and Germany), but it is not major news. And billionaire media is not covering it. Thus, it can be overlooked.

@prefec2 @vega as far as I can tell it isn't being mentioned at all by any media organizations over here in the United States. Fox News went as far as to say that the boat was "rerouted" from Gaza.
@ThatOneGuyT_T @vega oh so they are spreading lies and not only hide it. It makes me angry and it motivated me to spread the truth.

@prefec2 @ThatOneGuyT_T @vega Apropos wirkliche Lügenpropaganda und Falschmeldungen:

https://mastodon.social/@RitaWerner/114653416895881333

@Lykos_Phi @prefec2 @vega holy shit. Your account is insane. Did you not learn from your country's history? You literally post about Nazism.

@ThatOneGuyT_T @prefec2 @vega Yes, I name antisemitism in NSDAP-Hamas-Propaganda et similar.

I have learnt from the past and history lessons - you obviously not.

Bye.

@Lykos_Phi @ThatOneGuyT_T @prefec2 @vega You seem like a profoundly evil human.

You have clearly learned a great deal from history. You look at the Nazis and say, "We need to do that again!"

Le navire humanitaire Madleen intercepté par Israël, ses passagers invités à retourner chez eux

Le bateau humanitaire Madleen qui tentait de rallier Gaza avec à son bord notamment l'activiste suédoise Greta Thunberg a été dérouté dans la nuit de dimanche à lundi par les autorités israéliennes, qui ont invité ses passagers à "retourner dans leurs pays".

Radio Télévision Suisse
@tomtom @prefec2 @vega
I made this point to another person, but I'm going to reiterate; I'm in the United States, we do not have access to the majority of news organizations outside of our country. And the United States press coverage, including some of the ones that you sent, mischaracterize information. Along with, none of them mention that this is a Blatant violation of international law, And they include Israeli propaganda.
@ThatOneGuyT_T @tomtom @prefec2 @vega you're in the United states. You have way more access than anyone. That's a skill issue.
@thatsmokepit no, it's not a skill issue. we actually have pretty bad cooperate censorship here? And that's not what the point of the post is? Please tell me, is this rage bait or are you just illiterate?
@ThatOneGuyT_T we don't, you literally have the opportunity to find what you're looking for via internet. It's not rage bait or illiteracy, I merely commented on your statement claiming we can't access certain news outlets. This conversation branched from your comment and not your main statement.
@ThatOneGuyT_T Not only that. Our Swedish government is remarkably silent in all of this, the only real comment (from our secretary of foreign policies) is, more or less "we've recommended our citizens to not visit Gaza for a decade". Nothing about she's being kidnapped in international waters.

@ThatOneGuyT_T When you let a regime do anything, it will keep breaking more laws until they find out where the hard place is.

Appeasing them will only make them break more laws more of the time.

@ThatOneGuyT_T They are corporate. Their motives are corporate. The balance of power, and therefore outcomes, in this unfettered colonial corporate environment has shifted so far that existing language no longer applies.
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> Was on international waters

Is there proof of this? I can't find the GPS coordinates for their last reported location, but Israel's territorial waters extend 12 nautical miles off the coast and they were stopped within visual distance from the Port of Ashdod so I'm pretty sure it wasn't still in international waters

@feld @ThatOneGuyT_T I like the thought and what Greta try to do - just the International Waters Idea is wrong or fake news.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_waters

International waters - Wikipedia

@ibrahim_cris @feld
-"no State may validly purport to subject any part of them to its sovereignty. The Convention on the High Seas was used as a foundation for the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), signed in 1982, which recognized exclusive economic zones extending 200 nautical miles (230 mi; 370 km) from the baseline, where coastal states have sovereign rights to the water column and sea floor as well as the natural resources found there."
@ThatOneGuyT_T @ibrahim_cris I was also gonna mention the 200NM boundary but that's really more about natural resources than territory. The territorial waters is a much shorter distance.
@ibrahim_cris @feld tldr Israel only has jurisdiction 200 miles outside of their shore, the aid vessel was both more than 200 mi away from ANY shore, and also was not heading towards Israels' shores, it was heading to Gaza, where Israel does not have jurisdiction either, as Gaza is recognized as an independent state. Even IF they were within 200 miles of the shore of Gaza, Israel still does not have jurisdiction there.
@ThatOneGuyT_T @ibrahim_cris

> Gaza is recognized as an independent state

not by the UN, which stupidly is what we have somehow decided is what matters internationally and we likely won't see that change until the USA is dethroned as the world's superpower and the UN is disbanded

so USA keeps vetoing it...
@feld @ibrahim_cris They are recognized by the United Nations as a non-member observer State, so they are recognized as a state just not part of the United nations, similar to Taiwan.
@ThatOneGuyT_T @ibrahim_cris good point, but they even lost other rights in the UN in 2020 when they expired

There's also the Oslo Accords...

International agreement on these things is a fucking nightmare

I don't think this is worth arguing the specifics right now. It's easier to just point out that there are no allies stepping in to help Palestine fight back, so if anything that is enough of a signal that governments are OK with Israel denying Palestinian statehood regardless of what they signal in UN votes.

A lot of cruel and cowardly people out there in power
@feld @ibrahim_cris The point that I was making is that even if they were closer to the shore, Israel would still not have jurisdiction

@ThatOneGuyT_T @feld

I just thought that the spin with the waters was wrong. This sea is to small.

And Israel have the power and control, since Gaza has no stable Ground. They are not in EU nor in African Bound or they try to fallback on Osman/Sultan/Dynasty. So yes Netanja is wrong and what he do too. build Bridges to Humans protesting in Israel against that hate and stop Hamas from continue the hate.
End long wars is hard.. because of the past. Issue got bigger with.. more time in spread

@ThatOneGuyT_T @feld
They secure some Area cause of Military Operations. And with Power and Force present they do. Point.

I do not like it but i think it is.

However i like what Greta try to do. And think or hope The will change something or minds on both sides with this...

Its just dangerous. And can cost Life.

@ibrahim_cris @feld They. do. not. have. power. to. operate. outside. of. their. jurisdiction. Point blank. They are not the world police. They're not allowed to do just whatever they want. There are literally multiple cases going on right now specifically about this blockade because they are operating outside of their jurisdiction.
@ThatOneGuyT_T @ibrahim_cris there's only one solution when we have international disputes as there is no "world government" that overrules everything:

@ThatOneGuyT_T @feld
Sometimes power is just a Gun... is the Crew free now or in some custody?

This try to build up political force or the News on it... its just. This did not stop Humans there from hating each other.

I am sick to say its complex. But if these humans can't build bridges and bounds like playing children together they will still kill each other in future.

You know, they have to migrate in 50 Years cause of the heat and i just hope they have peace in together fight issues. :(

@ThatOneGuyT_T „the aid vessel was both more than 200 mi away from ANY shore“

Really? How’s that? There are no zones in the Mediterranean outside the 200 nm zone. Israel‘s maritime space borders directly to that of Egypt, Cyprus, and Libanon. The Palestinian territory of Gaza has proposed a maritime space which is not recognised by *either* Egypt or Israel.

https://sovereignlimits.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/08/Med_Overview_Map-01-1024x750.jpg

@ibrahim_cris @feld

@ThatOneGuyT_T Also kind of funny that the so called „Freedom Flotilla“ had no issues saying they „officially entered Egyptian waters“ before.

https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/freedom-flotilla-madleen-ship-enters-egypt-waters--gaza-next

@ibrahim_cris @feld

Freedom Flotilla Madleen ship enters Egypt waters, Gaza next en route

Greta Thunberg and a group of international activists aboard the aid ship Madleen are nearing the Egyptian coast on a mission to break "Israel's" blockade on Gaza.

Al Mayadeen English
@feld @ThatOneGuyT_T Territorial waters of Israel or of occupied Palestine, according to international law?
@hisham_hm @ThatOneGuyT_T Palestine is not a state. Should there be a two state solution? Yes, I think so, but the rest of the world has not committed to that and put the appropriate pressure on Israel.

As it currently stands, that land is recognized as Israel's and so are those territorial waters.


edit: I should clarify, most of the world does think Palestine should be a state but the only official recognition happens within the UN and the USA has veto power and keeps voting against which stops any progress. Really dumb.

@feld @ThatOneGuyT_T Not true. State recognition happens on a state-by-state basis, it is not an exclusive property of the UN.

Palestine is recognized as a state by 147 countries, including my own. And even then, the United Nations DOES recognize Palestine as a state (a non-member observer state) as well.

The United States' failure to recognize a nation and their veto power in the Security Council does not have the power to bend reality at their will.

@feld @ThatOneGuyT_T Also, Gaza and the West Bank are not recognized as Israel's, by none of these 147 countries, or by the United Nations. When we say that the occupation is illegal by international law, that is precisely what it means: that it is _not_ "recognized as Israel's", i.e., the opposite of what you said.

Also not true that most of the world "thinks Palestine should be a state". Most of the world _already officially recognizes_ Palestine, for all practical purposes.

@feld @ThatOneGuyT_T

In Australia there was an interview with boat before it happened and they said the GPS location system on the boat had been electronically jammed so they knew some action was near.

Details as part of this story

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-06-10/greta-thunberg-boat-interception-latest-doran/105397110

Israel accused of breaching international law by storming Madleen aid ship

Lawyers for the crew of the Madleen say the activists have been wrongfully detained by Israeli authorities, who intercepted the ship trying to take aid to the war-ravaged strip.

ABC News
@craigduncan @feld I wish that our news did that kind of reporting because that is actually so cool to know! None of our news over here in the United States has even mentioned that

@ThatOneGuyT_T @feld

The US had fine journalists, but the idea it is a vocation not a profit business seeking favourable treatment seems to have been lost somewhere.

Good journalism is a key plank in avoiding misinformation, and the rise of corruption. It also requires courage.

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Didn't you get the memo?
Trump ended freedom of the press, along with free speech.

If you're a MSM outlet, try either of the above and see how fast he sues your ass and has your own lawyers telling you to be silent.

Just ask CBS.

@ThatOneGuyT_T Whats wrong with it is a certain small cadre of people have decided they own it and not enough people yet refuse to be owned.
@ThatOneGuyT_T except Channel 4 news - they covered it tonight. In the UK.
@ThatOneGuyT_T Media is just promotional literature for the corporations that own them

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Under international law, it's PIRACY.

@ThatOneGuyT_T When corporations reflect the interests of governments and vice versa, they can't be trusted. They're fascist mouthpieces.

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When the Houthi's abduct a ship crew, it's called kidnapping alright and the attack on any ship by them will be labeled 'piracy'. Consequently USA and Israel will bomb Yemen.
But Israel gets away with everything, because the jews suffered so much during the Holocaust that it's considered not done to criticize them.
Shame on western world leaders still supporting Netanyahu.
Sanctions right now!

@ThatOneGuyT_T arguably the correct term is piracy, but kidnapping will do
@edwebb I definitely could have been more verbose, but I was trying to phrase it using layman's terms to reach more people, and since I'm in the United States, that is a very low vocabulary level 🥲
Israel accused of breaching international law by storming Madleen aid ship

Lawyers for the crew of the Madleen say the activists have been wrongfully detained by Israeli authorities, who intercepted the ship trying to take aid to the war-ravaged strip.

ABC News
@ThatOneGuyT_T They do not have legal jurisdiction over Gaza or the Palestinians.
Israel seizes Gaza-bound activist boat and detains Greta Thunberg

The yacht, which was trying to bring a "symbolic" amount of aid to Gaza, is now on its way to Israeli territory.

BBC News