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Hierarchy of Needs
Beam me out!@catsalad Jira can be ok if it is kept simple and well organized. But I'd avoid the other two if possible.
@BeamMeOut Teams sucks the most, for sure.
David Chisnall (*Now with 50% more sarcasm!*)I don't really understand the Teams hate. It's like most MS products: it basically works and has a pile of annoying bugs. Chat, video calls, and so on basically work, and it's the only video calling app I've used that's actually good at sharing presentations in a way that works with accessibility tools and even just with different resolutions (due to some tight coupling between Teams and PowerPoint that probably should be subject to some antitrust scrutiny). Most of the alternatives to Teams are bad in different ways, some are bad in the same ways. It's significantly less bad for video calling than Zoom.
Outlook is far worse than Teams in almost every way (for example: after 30 years of people reporting that it can't properly quote emails in replies, it still can't properly quote emails in replies). Word and Excel are worse in many ways.
JIRA, in contrast, is a UI that is entirely designed to torture users. Everything is at least five clicks more than it would be in a good UI flow.
Nicolai Hähnle@david_chisnall @catsalad @BeamMeOut Add another point for that sentiment. I also use it on Linux (Chromium) and it works reasonably. I wonder if a lot of the Teams hate has to do with different cultures of how the tool is used.
Kind of like there is always one person on these threads saying that Jira is fine if set up properly.
@david_chisnall @catsalad @BeamMeOut And to be fair, we have multiple Jira projects (or whatever the term is) set up where I work, and some of them are more obnoxious than others.
The one thing they all have in common, and why I hate it unconditionally, it's that it's soooo slow.
Web apps are a blight on those of us who know that computers can actually be fast.
@nh @david_chisnall @catsalad If you have server Jira than it might be slow and depending on the version also very bad. Jira Cloud version improved in many aspects, but has less features. Companies often stuff Jira with tons of add-ons and scripts and it becomes sluggish.
jamesb2147@nh @david_chisnall @catsalad @BeamMeOut I actually wonder if some of it is other tools mucking about with the client software.
E g. DLP software often eats my CPU while OneDrive does some sync on my Mac. Super annoying and I'd blame OneDrive if I didn't know any better.
Would at least help explain the starkly different experiences people have with Teams.