Hierarchy of Needs
@catsalad Jira can be ok if it is kept simple and well organized. But I'd avoid the other two if possible.
@BeamMeOut Teams sucks the most, for sure.

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I don't really understand the Teams hate. It's like most MS products: it basically works and has a pile of annoying bugs. Chat, video calls, and so on basically work, and it's the only video calling app I've used that's actually good at sharing presentations in a way that works with accessibility tools and even just with different resolutions (due to some tight coupling between Teams and PowerPoint that probably should be subject to some antitrust scrutiny). Most of the alternatives to Teams are bad in different ways, some are bad in the same ways. It's significantly less bad for video calling than Zoom.

Outlook is far worse than Teams in almost every way (for example: after 30 years of people reporting that it can't properly quote emails in replies, it still can't properly quote emails in replies). Word and Excel are worse in many ways.

JIRA, in contrast, is a UI that is entirely designed to torture users. Everything is at least five clicks more than it would be in a good UI flow.

@david_chisnall @catsalad Yes, Teams are great if you're fully in the MS ecosystem. Run Windows, use Office etc. Office people like it and often prefer to anything else (Zoom, Webex, Skype for Business etc.). If not, it's not that great.
@BeamMeOut @david_chisnall @catsalad Work great, really?! I'm force to use that junk at work and for many colleagues and me, it just do random crash, freeze, hug CPU, hug memory, don't change the status when you change it and annoy you even more on W11 with notification, so define "work great", because for me, it's the plague .
@mikeTesteLinuxQlub @david_chisnall @catsalad I have similar experience, but somehow there are many users who say it works perfectly. Not sure what makes the magic difference, maybe depends also on which policies are enforced. For instance I would randomly get logged out of Teams, even in the middle of the call. That was absolutely crazy.

@BeamMeOut @mikeTesteLinuxQlub @catsalad Over the past five years, I've used Signal, Jitsi Meet, Google Meet, Zoom, Cisco WebEx and MS Teams. If this set, the only one I've routinely had problems with is Zoom.

Google Meet went through a phase for much of the last month where it would fail with some unspecified permission error, but it worked again after a few refreshes (a few other people had the same error but there's no way to report it and it went away after a while), but until then it had worked reliably.

@david_chisnall @BeamMeOut @catsalad I think it's a symptom of our times, we are the alpha/beta debugger for those corporations......Want an useless functionality, here we go, but fixing bug, no, too hard for us. Exciting times, that I can tell you 😆