My idea of progressivism is something that leads to peace, not backing stupid theocrats that spread violence wherever they go.

If this was true you’d be condemning Israel.l as well.

It appears to me that your problem is that you’re viewing it entirely binaristically.

You’re accusimg the leftists who condemn Israel of being pro-Palestine, when that’s actually two separate issues, and it’s in fact quite easy to condemn the patently evil oppression and slaughter of innocents without supporting the government under which they live.

And at the same time, in your rush to opposevthe undeniable toxicity of Islamic fundamentalism, you’re ignoring or excusing the laundry list of atrocities in which Israel engages on a literally daily basis.

If you had the working brain you claim to have, you’d be able to makebthe small stretch to condemning both Islamic oppression and Zionist oppression, instead of ignorantly treating it as an all or nothing prospect in which opposition to one requires support for the other.

False. Israel is not a theocratic state. It is a democratic state built primarily for the people of the Jewish ethnicity and/or religion. And 20% of it’s population are Arab Muslims.

You’re accusimg the leftists who condemn Israel of being pro-Palestine, when that’s actually two separate issues, and it’s in fact quite easy to condemn the patently evil oppression and slaughter of innocents without supporting the government under which they live.

And at the same time, in your rush to opposevthe undeniable toxicity of Islamic fundamentalism, you’re ignoring or excusing the laundry list of atrocities in which Israel engages on a literally daily basis.

It’s not an evil oppression and slaughter of the innocents, because they are not slaughtering them because they want their land. If the Muhammadians cared, they’d be opposing Hamas, but none of them ever raise voice against them. And I never see any Muhammadians ever raising voice for oppressed minorities. This cult only cares about its own members and to spread its religion. Jews have never been like that. They just need a spot to live in peace, and they’ve never tried to convert anyone.

If you had the working brain you claim to have, you’d be able to make the small stretch to condemning both Islamic oppression and Zionist oppression, instead of ignorantly treating it as an all or nothing prospect in which opposition to one requires support for the other.

I’m not a war expert to question Zionist oppression. I think if there was a better way of fighting the war, Israel would have done it. Muhammadians are a very special type of enemies who don’t behave like normal people. You’ll get that if you see how the Judeo-Christian Bible is chronologically ordered, while the Qur’aan, which backs off Bible stories explains stories in no sensible order, and you sort of have to bend your brain a lot to make sense of all that it says, and it has an entire 20k+ and more sets of Hadeeths that you have to connect in various ways to get the nuances of when to do Jihaad and all that. Think of a very shady and large (possibly the largest ever) T&C document.

I’ve studied these things after some of these idiots tried to convert me, and I know if there is any form of deception that’s possible, it’s in their plans. Of course, there are many peaceful people, but I’m talking about the ideology. Another example is how, just as with the right interpretation of Qur’aan 9:1 and associated Sunnah conditions which says that “indefinite term treaties” can always be broken by believers - Pakistan recently violated the ceasefire they themselves asked for within 3 hours to fire more drones at India, in a war they started by terrorism. Unconventional enemies requires unconventional warfare tactics.