Liberux

📣 Liberux NEXX is now live on crowdfunding! 🚀

After months of development and testing, we're introducing the most powerful Linux smartphone: RK3588S, 32 GB RAM, 5G, Debian 13 + GNOME Mobile, and total privacy with hardware killswitches. 🎉

🔼 Now upgraded to 512 GB of storage and European-made.
Support mobile freedom and reserve your unit in the next 30 days:

🔗 https://igg.me/at/liberux-nexx

#LiberuxNEXX #linuxphones #privacy #opensource

Jun 2 at 4:52pmWeb
Show threadkilled2 🇪🇺  Jun 2
@Liberux
I was really interested, but 1300€ is just a bit to much for me.
Show threadscopsJun 2
@killed2 same for me... but tbh, the device is just this expensive in development and production, imho. It can be compared with the Reform Next just in Smartphone shape. I will stick with my Reform and Librem 5 for now...
Show threadLiberuxJun 2
@scops @killed2 The raw hardware alone costs over €600. With Liberux, our goal is to provide the best support possible and ensure ongoing software development. Your backing helps us grow the team, improve the platform, and reach new audiences in the future.
Show threadMiakodaJun 2
@Liberux A competitor to Furilabs?! Fuck yeah! I have no idea if your device is good, I'm not in the market right now, but I'm happy to see another Linux mobile device appear!
Show threadscopsJun 2
@hellomiakoda it's in many ways better then the furiabs smartphone. It doesn't use stock chinese reference hardware like the furiphone and it's much more open. No need for halium for example. Its like the librem 5 on steroids ;) @Liberux
Show threadMiakodaJun 2
@scops @Liberux It's also prohibitively expensive. I wouldn't have a Linux phone at all if Furilabs didnt put there's at a reachable junction of affordable and usable.
Show threadMiakodaJun 3
@scops @Liberux
I also just looked closer. I'd say the @furilabs phone is far far better hands down right now, because it's in my hand, with my sim in it, as opposed to a concept on a crowd fund page.
Perhaps the Liberux will be more powerful when it exists, but that won't help me now. And again, Furilabs' phone is more affordable.
Show threadMiakodaJun 3
@scops @Liberux @furilabs There is plenty of room for both to exist, btw. Much like the plethora of distros, the joy of Linux is choice.
Show threadtootbruteJun 3

@hellomiakoda @scops @Liberux @furilabs

looks neat. hope they make it.

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the more linux phones with open hardware, the better.

Show threadMiakodaJun 3
@tootbrute @scops @Liberux @furilabs I agree. Being unable to decide because of many good options would be a great problem to have.
Show threadtootbruteJun 3
@hellomiakoda @scops @Liberux @furilabs Or really, they should just have a law that you cannot make phones with boot loaders that are locked. It should be like a laptop. I should be able to install whatever damn operating system I want on it.
Show threadMiakodaJun 3
@tootbrute @scops @Liberux @furilabs There aren't other distros for my FLX1 yet, but nothing is stopping me. If I remember right, Ubuntu Touch is going to be an option to flash to it.
Show threadscopsJun 3
@hellomiakoda The main difference between smartphones like the Furiphone - or Vollaphone, ... - and something like the Nexx, Librem5,... is that the operating systems on the first group runs on a abstraction layer called halium on top of an android kernel. Operating systems for the second group can run a mainline linux kernel and doesn't need this abstraction layer. the drivers for the first group aren't open source. for the second one they are (mostly - depends on the soc)
Show threadMiakodaJun 3
@scops I get that, but the pure Linux phones aren't all that usable yet
Show threadscopsJun 3
@hellomiakoda yeah, i know ^^ b/c of that i use a Pixel with CalyxOS w/o google services as my daily driver. I have little hopes that a real linux with halium or mainline will be as good as usable as android. Only SailfishOS can compete with it, imho. Anything besides is incomplete and/or more a pocket version of a desktop environment. So it needs much more power to operate smoothly and/or struggle with the small screen.
Show threadtimorlJun 2

@Liberux Will LiberuxOS use Halium or a mainline kernel? Or rather, how well supported do you expect a mainline kernel to be on this hardware?

Fyi you have the “Other ways you can help” section repeated twice at the end.

Show threadQuadRadicalJun 2
@timorl @Liberux Their website is down right now so I can't check, but IIRC it was mainline.
Show threadDaniel WoodJun 2
@timorl @Liberux read the crowdfunding page.
Show threadLiberuxJun 2
@timorl It'll be native Linux, no Halium. 😊
Show threadryolJun 2

@Liberux

I was so excited for the crowdfunding, but 1300€?! I about choked.

To be fair, the specs are looking really good at first glance. I wish you all the best and that you can establish a worthy Linux smartphone.

Show threadchfkch  Jun 2
@ryol
Maybe you can be transparent about which amount goes into hardware and which in paying developers for long-term support.
This way it would be easier to compare vs. other phones.
@Liberux
Show threadMartin_McFlyJun 2
@chfkch @ryol @Liberux They said Hardware would be about 600 €
Show thread꧁ 𓇣 𝓜𝓪𝓻𝓲𝓪 𝓒𝓮𝓻𝓿𝓪𝓷𝓽𝓮𝓼 𓇣 ꧂Jun 2
@Liberux What a wonderful new! Wish you luck ❤️‍🔥
Show threadDaniel WoodJun 2
@Liberux does it require a dock for desktop mode or is video out supported over usb-c?
Show threadLiberuxJun 2
@dubstar_04 The video out will be supported over USB-C. So you’ll be able to connect directly to an external display for desktop mode. 🖥️✨
Show threadQuadRadicalJun 2
@Liberux Hello, your website (https://liberux.net) appears to be down:
Show threadQuadRadicalJun 2

@Liberux Also, I've got some questions if you don't mind:
- Does it run U-Boot / Towboot or something? I don't want to run Debian, ideally I'd like to run NixOS, and assuming the drivers are FOSS and it runs U-Boot / Towboot or something, this shouldn't be too hard.
- What are the physical dimensions of the device? I couldn't find the width on the IndieGoGo.
- Does it do quick charge and everything, so I don't have to wait around ages for it to charge?
- Is there a fingerprint sensor? I see something on the back, but I'm not sure if its a sensor.
- I think I see theres a case on the phone in the images? Does that come with the phone?

Thanks!

Show threadQuadRadicalJun 2
@Liberux I'd love a response to this :) Gotta know before I consider supporting :)
Show threadLiberuxJun 2

@QuadRadical Apologies for the delay in replying — we’ve been getting a lot of messages through various channels

✅ Yes, it runs U-Boot.

📏 For now the approximate dimensions are 154 mm (H) × 71 mm (W) × 10 mm (D).

⚡ Yes, it supports fast charging, and we’re including a fast charger right in the box.

🔒 That is a fingerprint sensor on the back.

📱 We haven’t designed an official case yet, but it’s on our roadmap.

Hopefully we’ll see you onboard soon! 🚀💙

Show threadQuadRadicalJun 2
@Liberux That's perfect, thank you!
Show threadQuadRadicalJun 2
@Liberux Also, what's happening with liberux.net? Why is it down?
Show threadQuadRadicalJun 4

@Liberux Okay, I've got one more question before I buy:

Will any drivers be upstreamed to the Linux kernel? You won't support this device forever, so I want to know the drivers will go somewhere, not just get stale on some custom kernel fork.

It's a lot of money for a phone that could theoretically not be getting kernel updates in a few years.

Thanks!

Show threadQuadRadicalJun 4
@Liberux Hi, any idea about this? I'd like to get one tonight, but I'd love to know this first.
Show threadLiberuxJun 4

@QuadRadical
Our intention is to upstream as much of our work as possible to the mainline Linux kernel. We’re committed to publishing everything we can and ensuring that others in the community can support the device in their own systems too.

There are still a few technical uncertainties, and realistically not every driver may be open or accepted upstream — but our commitment to transparency and long-term sustainability is real.

Show threadPavel MachekJun 6
@Liberux @QuadRadical "Not every driver may be open"? That's quite a big red flag. Even Android folk follow GPL and publish driver sources. You know... it is not optional.
Show threadQuadRadicalJun 6
@pavel @Liberux They may be talking about microcode, modem, etc, which they don't have access to? See the FAQ at https://liberux.net.
Liberux – Privacy · Security · Freedom

Show threadMaxJun 2
@Liberux I just crowdfunded one :-) Still hoping for community interaction like postmarketos / mobian, a slot for opengpg or some other easy way to unlock the LUKS card and ofc a lot of success to the project!!! 🙂
Show threadLiberuxJun 2

@max

Thank you so much for backing us! 😊 We're absolutely aligned — community collaboration is at the heart of this project. We'd love to see integrations with postmarketOS, Mobian, and more.

Secure LUKS unlock (including GPG-based flows) is definitely on our radar. 🛡️

Thanks again for the support and kind wishes — let’s build this together! 🚀💻

Show threadFabio Alessandro "Fale" LocatiJun 2
@Liberux competitors in the same arena (Linux phones, similar or equal processor) come with a way lower (less than half) price point. What are the differences from the competition to justify such a price? I read the email and page, but I don't see them
Show threadryolJun 2

@fale @Liberux

Could you name a few examples? I've been looking around as well.

Show threadFabio Alessandro "Fale" LocatiJun 2
@ryol @Liberux https://pine64.com/product/pinephone-pro-explorer-edition/ is based on RK3399, but for less than a third of the price. https://furilabs.com/shop/flx1/ is at less than half the price with a mediatek. I'm not endorsing any of those but those are buyable today for way cheaper!
PinePhone Pro Explorer Edition Linux SmartPhone - PINE STORE

The PinePhone Pro orders will dispatch weekly from Hong Kong warehouse. BODY Dimensions: 160.8mm x 76.6mm x 11.1mm Weight: 215 grams Build: Plastic Colour: Black SIM: Nano-SIM DISPLAY Type: in-cell IPS capacitive touchscreen, Gorilla Glass 4™, 16M colors Size: 6 inches Resolution: 1440×720 pixels, 18:9 ratio PLATFORM OS: Sailfish OS (pre-Beta build) on eMMC and megi's RK2AW on SPI-Flash Chipset: Rockchip RK3399S CPU: 64-bit 6-core 4x ARM Cortex A53  + 2x ARM Cortex A72 GPU: Mali T860MP4 MEMORY Internal Flash Memory: 128GB eMMC System Memory: 4GB LPDDR4 Expansion: Micro SD Card (supports SDHC and SDXC, up to 2TB) CAMERA Main Camera: Single 13MP, Sony iMX258, LED Flash Selfie Camera: Single 8MP, OmniVision OV8858 SOUND Loudspeaker: Yes, mono 3.5mm jack with mic: Yes, stereo COMMUNICATION Worldwide, Global LTE bands LTE-FDD: B1/ B2/ B3/ B4/ B5/ B7/ B8/ B12/ B13/ B18/ B19/ B20/ B25/ B26/ B28 LTE-TDD: B38/ B39/ B40/ B41 WCDMA: B1/ B2/ B4/ B5/ B6/ B8/ B19 GSM: 850/900/1800/1900MHz WLAN: Wi-Fi 802.11AC, hotspot capable Bluetooth: 5.0 GPS: Yes, with A-GPS, GLONASS FEATURES USB: USB3.0 type C, USB Host, DisplayPort Alternate Mode output Sensors: Accelerometer, Gyro, Proximity, Ambient Light, Magnetometer/compass Actuator: Vibration Motor Privacy Switches: LTE (includes GPS), Wifi/BT, Microphone, Camera, Headphone Jack (UART) BATTERY Removable Li-Po 3000 mAh battery Charging: USB type-C, 15W – 5V 3A Quick Charge, follows USB PD specification PACKAGE CONTENTS PinePhone Pro USB-A to USB-C charging cable Quick Start User Manual Device Warranty: 30 Days Note: The PinePhone Pro Explorer Edition is aimed at Linux developers with an extensive knowledge of embedded systems and/or experience with mobile Linux. Due to restrictions placed on shipment of Lithium-ion battery operated devices, such as the PinePhone Pro, it needs to be purchased separately from other items in the Pine Store. Adding other items to the basket will return an error at check-out.    

PINE STORE
Show threadryolJun 2

@fale @Liberux

Thanks for the links!

The Pinephone Pro unfortunately only has 4 GB RAM, which is just too low in my opinion nowadays. To my knowledge it also started with poor software support, being mainly community driven.

The FLX1 looks interesting, but also only has 6 GB RAM.

I'm not really defending the price, but 32 GB RAM is one point in favour of the Liberux. Also it has an OLED screen and unlike Furi also has hardware switches.

Show threadFabio Alessandro "Fale" LocatiJun 2
@ryol @Liberux I agree that there are differences, though, as you pointed out the "software support" part is key. How Liberux can guarantee it? I think they can not guarantee more than any of those listed ones, so the risk is very high. Also, Librelux is still in funding process (delivery date mid 2026), while those listed are buyable today.
Show threadEggs now in different baskets.Jun 2

@ryol @fale @Liberux

My PinePhone Pro runs at an acceptable speed for me with mobian/Phosh installed. I am not a "normal" smartphone user and do not need to be able to play 4k videos or use apps that steal my data. You can do a lot with normal desktop browsers such as Vivaldi and LibreWolf.

I added the XFCE desktop to the phone and boot into that every now and again when I get tired of swiping back and forth.

Show threadEggs now in different baskets.Jun 2

@ryol @fale @Liberux It is not perfect and there are issues such as poor support for the built in cameras. You need an external webcam to use something like Wire IM although you can make voice calls with Wire using the built in microphone.

It is not really consumer friendly as such but if you know your way round the OS you choose to install (in my case debian based) and like to marvel at what it can do then it is nice companion to have around.

Show threadQuadRadicalJun 2

@ryol @fale @Liberux Like the "Comparison with other Linux Smartphones" says, its more powerful, more ram, 5g, etc.

Also, as this is a fundraiser, I doubt the finished model will be this expensive.

Show threadDaniel WoodJun 2
@fale @Liberux which competitor devices have similar specs?
Show threadFabio Alessandro "Fale" LocatiJun 2
@dubstar_04 @Liberux https://pine64.com/product/pinephone-pro-explorer-edition/ is based on RK3399, but for less than a third of the price. https://furilabs.com/shop/flx1/ is at less than half the price with a mediatek. I'm not endorsing any of those but those are buyable today for way cheaper!
PinePhone Pro Explorer Edition Linux SmartPhone - PINE STORE

The PinePhone Pro orders will dispatch weekly from Hong Kong warehouse. BODY Dimensions: 160.8mm x 76.6mm x 11.1mm Weight: 215 grams Build: Plastic Colour: Black SIM: Nano-SIM DISPLAY Type: in-cell IPS capacitive touchscreen, Gorilla Glass 4™, 16M colors Size: 6 inches Resolution: 1440×720 pixels, 18:9 ratio PLATFORM OS: Sailfish OS (pre-Beta build) on eMMC and megi's RK2AW on SPI-Flash Chipset: Rockchip RK3399S CPU: 64-bit 6-core 4x ARM Cortex A53  + 2x ARM Cortex A72 GPU: Mali T860MP4 MEMORY Internal Flash Memory: 128GB eMMC System Memory: 4GB LPDDR4 Expansion: Micro SD Card (supports SDHC and SDXC, up to 2TB) CAMERA Main Camera: Single 13MP, Sony iMX258, LED Flash Selfie Camera: Single 8MP, OmniVision OV8858 SOUND Loudspeaker: Yes, mono 3.5mm jack with mic: Yes, stereo COMMUNICATION Worldwide, Global LTE bands LTE-FDD: B1/ B2/ B3/ B4/ B5/ B7/ B8/ B12/ B13/ B18/ B19/ B20/ B25/ B26/ B28 LTE-TDD: B38/ B39/ B40/ B41 WCDMA: B1/ B2/ B4/ B5/ B6/ B8/ B19 GSM: 850/900/1800/1900MHz WLAN: Wi-Fi 802.11AC, hotspot capable Bluetooth: 5.0 GPS: Yes, with A-GPS, GLONASS FEATURES USB: USB3.0 type C, USB Host, DisplayPort Alternate Mode output Sensors: Accelerometer, Gyro, Proximity, Ambient Light, Magnetometer/compass Actuator: Vibration Motor Privacy Switches: LTE (includes GPS), Wifi/BT, Microphone, Camera, Headphone Jack (UART) BATTERY Removable Li-Po 3000 mAh battery Charging: USB type-C, 15W – 5V 3A Quick Charge, follows USB PD specification PACKAGE CONTENTS PinePhone Pro USB-A to USB-C charging cable Quick Start User Manual Device Warranty: 30 Days Note: The PinePhone Pro Explorer Edition is aimed at Linux developers with an extensive knowledge of embedded systems and/or experience with mobile Linux. Due to restrictions placed on shipment of Lithium-ion battery operated devices, such as the PinePhone Pro, it needs to be purchased separately from other items in the Pine Store. Adding other items to the basket will return an error at check-out.    

PINE STORE
Show threadDaniel WoodJun 2
@fale @Liberux neither of those devices are comparable. pinephone pro is nowhere near on specs and has no software support. The furiphone is closer on specs but is halium based.
Show threadFabio Alessandro "Fale" LocatiJun 2
@dubstar_04 @Liberux How can you be sure about Libelux software support, since the first devices will ship in 1 year? My point is not that those two I listed are good options, but just that Libelux proposal is not clearly a winning one
Show threadDaniel WoodJun 2
@fale @Liberux The liberux crowdfunding pages states they are providing an os and driver support however I can't be sure about software support, that's the risk with crowdfunding. But the pinephone device has no software support from the vendor, therefore you're paying significantly less however the device is not usable as a daily driver.
Show threadFabio Alessandro "Fale" LocatiJun 2
@dubstar_04 @Liberux Yes, though, they do admit in the risks & challenges section that software development is a risk. I agree with you that those are not apple to apple comparisons, also because the two devices I mentioned are already buyable today, while this device will (maybe/probably/hopefully) ship in 1 year. My point is just that - given all the uncertainties of crowdfunding - and the fact that in 1 year time many more devices will be in the market, the price is too high, imho
Show threadLiberuxJun 2

@dubstar_04 @fale A big part of the Liberux project is focused on software development to ensure the device is stable and truly usable as a daily driver.

We’re committed to reinvesting all funds raised back into development.

Our goal is to deliver a polished, reliable experience for our users.

Show threadDaniel WoodJun 3
@Liberux @fale are you working with upstream gnome or mobian for the software?
Show threadEvelyn89Jun 2
@Liberux I got one ❤️ I cant wait to leave big corpa, ads and trackers behind.🎉
Show threadLiberuxJun 2
@Evelyn89 Thank you so much for your support! 🙌
We truly appreciate the trust you've placed in us — together we're building something that puts freedom and privacy first. Welcome aboard! 🚀💻
Show thread狐ヴィクシーJun 2

@Liberux You want €1300 for essentially a 32gb orange pi 5 with a screen and battery.

Dream on.

Show threadLiberuxJun 2

@KitsuneVixi This isn’t just a board with a screen. It’s a fully custom-designed device, built from scratch with optimized software, power management, and privacy features like hardware kill-switches. The raw component cost alone is already over triple that of a basic SBC — not to mention the months of work from a small, dedicated team.

We're not just selling hardware — we're building an open, privacy-focused platform and community.

Show thread狐ヴィクシーJun 2
@Liberux Well, I'll find out for myself when it's open source and I try building my own.
Show threadryolJun 2

@Liberux

Alright, I thought about it for a while and have backed it.

Really excited about this project, looking forward to finally having a powerful Linux phone.

Do you already have someone who will deal with the CE and FCC certifications?