JA WestenbergFrom the people who brought you Reply Guys…introducing Just Guys.
Dropbox buggy? Just host your own fileserver.
Rent too high? Just buy a house.
Feeling sad? Just go for a 5k.
Oppressed? Just stop complaining.
When every problem is a Jira ticket...
unexpectedteapot@Daojoan I mean tbh the first one IS a technical issue, and we do need to stop being addicted and dependant on tech companies for our data. That's the only way we seize power from them, anything else is purely patting ourselves on the back. I do get it is a solution that requires a time and money investment though..
Lunar 🛸 ♾@unexpectedteapot @Daojoan Exactly - it's not something you can "just" do.
JaneraTiciano@unexpectedteapot @Daojoan how on earth do you people come up with the ludicrous idea that self-hosting ANYTHING is a viable option for people who are NOT doing tech as their job? I have a job already. It took me 6 years to study law, 8 years to get my full qualification. I know a fuckton of stuff about my job subject. I have no time, energy, capacity and spoons to learn everything about tech just because i have ONE specific tech need. Like a working cloud storage. Godsdamnit.
geschichtenundmeer@JaneraTiciano This. (And I have some things to do in my free time, such as reading, writing, hiking, dancing..
. just to make sure my day job doesn't kill me.)
. just to make sure my day job doesn't kill me.)
MadMike77@JaneraTiciano @unexpectedteapot @Daojoan Maybe going to a nearby hackerspace might help you get started.
But yes: In the long run you either find someone who does at least some of the work or you will spend time learning and doing this on your own.
@MadMike77 @unexpectedteapot @Daojoan pray tell, WHEN am I going to your imaginary hackerspace when the alternative is THREE CLICKS FROM HOME?!
You have not understood anything. I do not have the time or willingness to learn this shit just so 'just selhost' guys can feel validated.
When have YOU taken three years to learn how to sew clothes? It only takes a little course at your community college to start. Then you could escape fast fashion. DID YOU DO IT?!?!
I can sew. Clothes. Can you?
You have not understood anything. I do not have the time or willingness to learn this shit just so 'just selhost' guys can feel validated.
When have YOU taken three years to learn how to sew clothes? It only takes a little course at your community college to start. Then you could escape fast fashion. DID YOU DO IT?!?!
I can sew. Clothes. Can you?
@MadMike77 @unexpectedteapot @Daojoan Any textile craft is more directly useful to us as humans than coding. I can weave, knit, crochet, sew, embroider. I can literally make clothes, i just dont work at the lowest fiber levels (though i know some of the theory to that, too). I know many, MANY useful things. I spent years learning them. I will not require everyone to know them, because I know this is hard to learn & NOT inherently useful in our current society!
Not everyone needs to learn code!
Not everyone needs to learn code!
@JaneraTiciano @unexpectedteapot @Daojoan I know those three clicks are much easier. And I know that your time is limited. You make your own decision what you with your life. I'm absolutely fine with that and I won't suggest you to do otherwise.
Just let me tell you my story: I founded a hackerspace with some friends of mine. The idea was to get together creative people together one evening a week. It was supposed to be about Linux and electronics. But 1/
@JaneraTiciano @unexpectedteapot @Daojoan we gather people repairing all kinds of stuff like household items, people wanting to sew clothes, etc. So in the end I was helping others to setup computers and I got someone to show me how to make my own t-shirt.
Hackerspaces and other creative space aren't imaginary. They are real. It doesn't mean you are somehow not allowed to go the easy way and click 3 times. But well, you might find people you like and help each other with stuff.
Hackerspaces and other creative space aren't imaginary. They are real. It doesn't mean you are somehow not allowed to go the easy way and click 3 times. But well, you might find people you like and help each other with stuff.
@MadMike77 @unexpectedteapot @Daojoan i don't care. You FOUNDED it, so you had already acquired knowledge on the subject. And it's nice these spaces exist. BUT THEY DONT SOLVE THE ISSUE AT HAND! the issue being that people who cannot code and will never have the time to learn it (WHO is babysitting that child ONE EVENING EVERY WEEK so a young mother can go to your hackspace? Who cooks, cleans, does the laundry?) ALSO need a viable solution. So get off your high horse & provide a VIABLE solution!
@MadMike77 @unexpectedteapot @Daojoan i am, btw, not a customer of dropbox, but of a tiny german provider who also does actually gdpr compliant mail services, with a pgp encrypting option, and my small paid plan also gives me a limited amount of cloud storage. I don't need self hosting to be somewhere other than dropbox! If people like you gave mire time to reviewing and recommending small existing solutions, we'd also be in a better position overall!
Whispering Hek@JaneraTiciano @MadMike77 @unexpectedteapot @Daojoan
Wowow this is a really good idea. Making it so that everyone is welcome in more than just words.
There is a coffee shop near me that has a drop off child care area right outside the coworking office space. A hackerspace is different from coworking in intention and the presence of powertools, but I suspect that having wider society would change the culture. Add in some food and you're got yourself a community center.
Wowow this is a really good idea. Making it so that everyone is welcome in more than just words.
There is a coffee shop near me that has a drop off child care area right outside the coworking office space. A hackerspace is different from coworking in intention and the presence of powertools, but I suspect that having wider society would change the culture. Add in some food and you're got yourself a community center.
spiegelmama@JaneraTiciano I am so sorry you got drawn into that nightmare. Thank you for learning all the fiber arts I can't master, but maybe especially the law - lawyers are vital to keeping the regulations and mores of society fair and fairly applied. On a tiny note, you also helped me remove a couple of insufferable tech bros from my universe. They're probably great guys in real life, up to a point, but online they really do make it maddening and repulsive to exist as an expert in things they don't value. 😕
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@JaneraTiciano @Daojoan first, calm down please. For your sake really.
Secondly, I understand your frustration. JUsT iNstAlL lInUX kind of "suggestions" are not helpful because there is a cost to 1) spend time on doing it 2) switch costs in terms of convenience and features 3) maintenance burden among others. Totally understandable. Having tech sovereignty these days is hard for the vast majority of people. These Big Tech companies actively make it harder btw.
We need to find solutions to collectivize and share responsibilities and resources in a prosocial manner outside the profit-driven extraction machines such as Google and others. There are non-profit, worker-controlled services both global and regional attempting to do so. A global example that comes to mind is Proton.
Joe@JaneraTiciano How you find the patience to discuss this irrational expectation that you learn and construct your hosting platform is astonishing to me. I hire people and pay for services all the time, and I actually have most of the requisite skills to do so. But I either don't have the time, or the professional will do a better job. I am a tech person and have no desire to host my platform. AND I know exactly how to do it, having run datacenters. @unexpectedteapot @Daojoan
@RegGuy @unexpectedteapot @Daojoan patch management alone puts me off hosting anything myself, ever. German imprint law makes me wanna use social media instead of having a website. I know enough about the theory to fully understand why one wouldn't want to.
Juno Jove@JaneraTiciano @unexpectedteapot @Daojoan tech literacy is as important as literal literacy in the 2020s.
Sue me. You spent 2-4 years learning to read and write at a basic level. Chances are you did for a driver's license, too.
I get absolutely fucking pissed at people wallowing in - no, CELEBRATING! - their ignorance thinking their law degree entitles them to avoid ANYTHING that normal people need to do.
Like, doing their own (tech) ABCs.
Guess what - we had to learn the basics of law, too.
@jupiter @unexpectedteapot @Daojoan SELFHOSTING IS NOT LITERACY!
You absolute dolt.
I wonder IF you ever acquited said literacy with your evident lack of reading comprehension.
As you can see, I am capable of operating a MINOR MASTODON INSTANCE ACCOUNT ON MY OWN! What I do not fucking know is how to get a whole goddamn patch management running for a godforsaken selfhosted anything! Because running shit at that level IS A JOB!