Steven
TutaSwiss surveillance could become worse than US
If passed, Swiss chat, email & VPN providers must:
🚨 Log IP addresses
🚨 Ask for ID upon sign up
🚨 Decrypt data upon request
Let's fight for privacy! 👉 https://tuta.com/blog/switzerland-surveillance-plan
Stilvoid@Tutanota @protonprivacy Looking forward to your take on this 😬
zetabeta@stilvoid @Tutanota @protonprivacy
i don't have a source at the moment.
proton leaves switzerland if laws (or decrees, ordinances) passed.
D.EJE.D
Pau Cabrera@zetabeta @stilvoid @Tutanota @protonprivacy Best move for them, but if that happened, where would they go? Switzerland is the place with best privacy laws by now afaik.
Alessandro@stilvoid @Tutanota @protonprivacy no because Proton left Mastodon a while ago.
Really curious to see what they will do once their principal marketing driver will be gone.
benny
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Shaun Griffith
grassfox86@protonprivacy will lose all of if not most of there marketing material if this where to pass. It will also be a huge loss in privacy across the board.
IbiProton's CEO said they will leave Switzerland if this took place.
Well, the trick problem is - where can they go?
Also, if EU follows the stupid idea, their companies will lose lots of users, since privacy fans tended to choose European alternative.
Once the alternatives are not privacy-friendly, people are likely shift back to US ones.
Well, the trick problem is - where can they go?
Also, if EU follows the stupid idea, their companies will lose lots of users, since privacy fans tended to choose European alternative.
Once the alternatives are not privacy-friendly, people are likely shift back to US ones.
@Ibi I think the only place left to go would be Iceland. Which would be both difficult and doesn't have the necessary infrastructure, I'm guessing to handle that.
Ricardo Martín@Tutanota OK, but just after they get rid of their Swiss banking secrecy /s
Kuba Suder • @mackuba.eu on 🦋@ricardo @Tutanota I thought they already did a while ago, under pressure from the USA? https://www.reuters.com/article/business/era-of-bank-secrecy-ends-as-swiss-start-sharing-account-data-idUSKCN1MF13O/
@mackuba @Tutanota You're right, but it seems that it's still a problem
https://www.dw.com/en/switzerland-a-haven-for-russian-money/a-68783551
https://www.dw.com/en/switzerland-a-haven-for-russian-money/a-68783551
Laureano@Tutanota If I read correctly, this was luckily ruled out already?
https://www.inside-it.ch/vupf-revision-faellt-in-der-vernehmlassung-komplett-durch-20250507
Helianthus@laureano Correct. It's just a big clickbait about something old that had not the slightest chance to get through. Sure, we also have here those democracy hostile forces (mainly far right, who would have thought) but they are still under reasonable control.
MAX! 
♾🇺🇲🇮🇹@Tutanota god fucking DAMNIT switzerland
B.@Tutanota Oh how selfless that Tuta is reporting about what's going on in a small Alpine country.
T Jones FilmICE DeportElon@FrozenPeach @Tutanota no, but, coincidence has it that the biggest competitor of Tuta, is directly affected and their custumers might be prone to look fore 'another provider'. So this reporting is really selfless, right. Tuta surely reports also on privacy crackdowns in Myanmar, Ethiopia, Argentina... right? RIGHT?
I am not a Proton fanboy, quite the opposite...
I am not a Proton fanboy, quite the opposite...
Vincent 🌻🇪🇺@Tutanota I hope #ProtonVPN will make some noise too
@Tutanota Won't happen. Greetings from Switzerland.
johnrohde@Tutanota Well sh1t, I'm in the process of moving a bunch of business accounts from Google Apps to @protonprivacy .
I'm pretty sure that's not happening now.
I'm pretty sure that's not happening now.
Gabriele Romano
Netizenry
Hugo@Tutanota You‘re posting this at 22nd May and are a little bit behind:
> There was hardly any positive feedback
> All major parties and numerous associations clearly rejected the plan.
https://www.inside-it.ch/vupf-revision-faellt-in-der-vernehmlassung-komplett-durch-20250507
With such a negative feedback and a rejection from all parties from left to right (this is rare in CH), that revision is unlikely to pass.
Many CH organisations and companies are fighting against it, and Proton will leave Switzerland if it does somehow pass:
Madiator2011@Tutanota I self host my email server shall I be woried :D
Chao-c'