Matthieu 🌳🏳️🌈🚲💅🏻
Erik AblesonJust bringing this one back up again. On the nose.
Edit to add the original source: http://humoncomics.com/mother-gaia
івась тарасикso, a whole comics strip with a lot of text… for what carlin had expressed with one phrase? ;-)
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✨buff dog himbo✨@erik yeah but we're ALSO kiling nature. Yeah, something will be here after we're gone. But we're factually making the planet uninhabitable in a longterm sense for many species ifbanimals & plants. We know for sure that our activity is driving coutless species to extinction, disrupting delicate earth systems such as the Atlantic Meriodonal Overturning Circulation, a huge currentbin the atlantic which could collapse as soon as early 2030s.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/02/climate/atlantic-circulation-collapse-timing/index.html
@erik like all this comic means is that the literal planet itself will still be here when we nuke the entire thing. Yeah, babe, it's a rock. But it has not ""survived"" worse than we can do. Earth systems don't go back to the way they were once cstastrophically disrupted, they change entirely. Masses go extinct. The compositions of the atmosphere & oceans change. This comic just gives this impression that climate change is trivial & only affects humans in the long term & thats not fucking TRUE.
punIssuer@itsmeholland @erik I think it's spot on. The planet has changed more already than we are inducing right now. There have been many mass extinction events, where many species died out completely. But life as a whole, always finds a way, and comes back adapted to the changed environment. Just imagine the paradise bacteria find themselves in, when they finally evolve to digest the microplastics we littered all over the planet
inj4n@punissuer @itsmeholland @erik five or so near-extinction-of-life events so far in the fossil record. There is plenty of reads on this topic. I stumbled upon "The Ends of the World" - nice reading, if you can use nice in relation to extinction at all.
Mu@itsmeholland @erik I mean, you're right in that the biosphere will be very disrupted, and yes it will change in many ways, but life will go on, and change is part of life. The comic doesn't say that there won't be scars.
Life managed to survive snowball Earth, and the oxygenation of the atmosphere, it'll survive us.
🌼 Dagnabbit, Pascaline! 🌼Those were my thoughts as well. If all these things stop (or even change dramatically) our beloved planet will no longer be able sustain any life 😢
I am concerned about the rotation of earth's core, and about the impact of the changed water distribution on Earth's wobble,
Alex with the Temper@erik Except bees and other critical species will go before we do, and that poor innocent people will suffer and die by the billions before it hits the rest of us who actually deserve it.
Other than that, yes, loving this vibe.
Omega_Scribet@erik The sad thing is humans won't die alone and are not the first to die.
Tim Chase@gumnos The wisdom encapsulated within is evergreen (until humanity at large makes a jump in maturity-I'm not holding my breath)
NoctaI mean while it's not technically wrong, but :
- it has some ecofascist vibe to it: not all humans are responsible for the climate changes and other ecological changes, it's very largely rich people, and people living in rich/colonialist countries
- "nature" (ill-defined concept but let's say life on earth) will likely survive, okay, but many species, and many individuals among those and other species, will die and suffer because of those changes
- I think there are scenarios where life on earth wouldn't be possible anymore or at least very hard, where temperature would raise in a self-maintaining way and reach mercury-levels, while they're maybe not the most likely it's hard to predict what would happen for sure
Kevin RussellExcept it blames victims, the 100,000s of Pakistanis with destroyed homes are not to blame for carbon fuels, farmers not to Blame for droughts. Singers not to blame for forests burning.
Action on building massive, carbon fuel.ending solar and wind is overwhelmingly popular worldwide.
It is only oil bosses and their bribed politicians working day and night to prevent New Energy that stand in 7 billion victims way.
Its oil bosses and corrupted cons standing in our way.
Will@erik this is partially false. Due to industrialism and capitalism we are killing/extinguishing millions on animal and vegetal species that are not only useful for our ability to inhabit earth (aka the ecosystemic services they provide) but have their own intrinsical value.
Sure, earth doesn't care and variety of species can and maybe will branch out at some point in a very distant future, but that doesn't negate the fact that we can mourn the loss of todays species-variety for their own sake. And we can do this without being "human centrered".